American Airlines 767 Crashes in NYC

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American Airlines Plane Crashes in NYC

It crashed in the Rockaway Beach area of Queens, near JFK airport. More info to come.
 
NEWSFLASH: Airliner 'crashes in New York'
An American Airlines Boeing 767 is reported to have crashed in the Queens District of New York.
Rudolph Giuliani is reported to be joining rescue services at the scene.
The crash happened at about 2.15pm (9.15am EST).
At least four buildings are said to be on fire at the scene, five to ten miles from John F Kennedy airport.
CNN reports that the plane was on its way to the airport.
The plane's flight number is reported to be 677.
A similar 767 airliner, which can take up to 350 people, crashed into the World Trade Centre on September 11.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/011112/4/cf9ow.html
 
News reports here in the States say it was an Airbus 300, capable of holding 200+ passengers; American Airlines flight # 587. FBI reports that there is no sign of foul play as of yet; FAA reports a loss of communication shortly after take-off; eyewitnesses report a fire on the left side of the plane.
 
Dan, obviously, since you're posting, you're okay, but how about your family and friends? Same goes for you, Poss, and all our other New Yorkers..
 
I've heard from everyone but my dad, but my mom said she called his office, and even though he's out on the road now, he was in the office at the time of the crash, so he's okay.
My mom will call me when she hears from him.
 
Originally posted by mthrlangl
Same goes for you, Poss, and all our other New Yorkers..

Thanks for the concern, Mth! :) I'm waaaaaay upstate, tho; events in NYC only affect me indirectly. I too am hoping our downstate & tristate Soup-Yorkers are safe & sound tho...
 
For those outside the NYC area, who aren't familiar with how the landscape is laid out:

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FWIW, my family lives in the area in eastern Queens that juts out towards Long Island, right near the Grand Central Parkway, if that gives you an idea of their proximity to the accident.
 
The only crash I heard of was in queens and only four homes were on fire. I think a school was included but I believe the kids were out on holiday. It was in Belle Harbour in the Rockaways on 129th and Newport. The engine and possibly the wings exploded off first then the rest of the plane plummetted (sp wrong I'm sure) down right afterwards. From what I know, it was an explosion due to possible engine failure last I had heard but even then no one was positive. They weren't ruling out sabatage/terrorism though

This incident couldn't have come at a worse time because of the recent terrorism. :(
 
Spidey and I are ok, and our Queens cousins are fine as well...:hug: to all
 
Heyas,

All checks out okay here too.. I have at least 10 or so relatives in Queens, but none lived in that area..

It was about 15 minutes away from my old house.. However, now I'm about 35 minutes away (on long island) from where it happened..

I have this recurring dream the last few years, about once a year, where I see this plane crashing north of my old house and I'm watching it go down over this row of houses in the distance and crash. I would dream I witnessed it from my old house.. Was always an odd one, so this sorta freaked me out.. Heh..

Glad everyone is okay...
 
hermie> Completely on the other side of Queens. LIC is on the East River, facing Manhattan. Ironically, LIC is on the opposite side of Queens as Long Island.

I'm sure your friend is fine. :)
 
So what does everyone think as more info has come through?

I think it's mighty suspicious that BOTH engines AND the tail fell off less than 3 minutes into the flight... :(
 
From CNN.com, a timeline of Flight 587's final seconds, as determined from the flight data recorder.

Flight 587's final seconds

NTSB Chairwoman Marion Blakely relays the data from the last 28 seconds of the flight data recorder aboard flight 587.


First wake, 28 seconds remaining

• Acceleration data is consistent with a wake encounter about 28 seconds before the end of the flight data recorder (FDR) data. Airplane attitudes did not change much in the first encounter (of a wake).

Second wake, 8 seconds remaining

• Acceleration data is consistent with a wake encounter about 8 seconds before the end of the FDR data. The airplane is responding normally, essentially, to the pilot's input and input of other control factors.
• The second encounter of a wake appears to be similar in intensity to the first. The airplane appears to be consistent with flight control inputs.
• During that same last eight seconds on the FDR there were side acceleration excursions of about 0.3 G, 0.4 G, and an opposite 0.3 G coincident with rudder deflections. The plane was moving and the rudder was moving, as well. The NTSB says this is a very significant lateral acceleration.


Last seconds

• About 2.5 seconds before the end of the FDR data, the rudder position data becomes unreliable.
• The side acceleration increases from about 0.3 G to about 0.8 G (0.3 G and 0.4 G is considered to be a very significant side acceleration).
• The airplane heading changes at about 10 degrees per second to the left.
• The bank angle is increasing through 25 degrees, left wing down, with the control wheel to the right.
• The pitch attitude drops to 30 degrees, nose down, while the vertical G-load increases to over 2 Gs.
• The end of the FDR data occurs when the airplane is at about 2,900 feet, which is about 20 or more seconds before the ****pit voice recorder stopped.
 
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