Another two Israeli teenagers murdered...

jadedskies

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The 'Popular Front For The Liberation Of Palestine' just blew up another Jerusalem pizzeria. Two teenagers, Nehamia Amar, 16, and Keren Shatzki, 14, dead, 26 people, mostly youngsters, in hospital, 8 of them seriously.

Did anyone notice outside of Israel? I didn't think so. Bush waits while Rome (or in this case Jerusalem) burns. It's about time Arafat was put where he belongs - The Hague.
 
There wouldn't be a little bit of bias on that site, would there? ;)

I know Israel's not angelic, but in this present conflict, they have the right to defend themselves. In the past, they've committed some nasty stuff, such as in Lebanon.

Every single day, Israelis are being murdered by Palestinian terrorists. Not a week goes by without 10 or so deaths. When Israel strikes back, it's at the terrorist organisations responsible and their headquarters. Occasionally, someone is killed through bombing misses. The US is no better. Yasser Arafat continues to order the massacres of hundreds of innocent Israelis, and never abides by any peace accords. Every single time Arafat detains a terrorist, they are let go within weeks.

If Arafat and the Palestinian Authority were indeed serious, they would detain the terrorists, and shut down Hamas and the other terrorist infrastructures. But Arafat has shown time and time again that he is not serious about peace, and is simply a murderer.

There is a difference between walking into a cafe with a machinegun and killing everyone, and accidentally blowing up a house next to a military headquarters.

Ariel Sharon IS a war criminal, for what he did in Lebanon, not in this intifada. But Arafat, too, is a war criminal, for the indiscriminate murder of hundreds of Israeli civilians, simply because they -were- Israeli.
 
Let's just give a little bit of a run-down on the "Palestinian struggle for peace..."
...the very same "struggle for peace" which Al-Qaeda has just popped up in...


Suicide bomb attack prevented near Tiberias
Mother-of-two and two soldiers murdered in ambush-grenade attack
Israeli soldiers shot dead two suicide bombers trying to get into the town of Morag, bringing the total number of Palestinian suicide attacks in 24 hours to six
Two men (also Al-Qaeda members) detained in Turkey on their way to blow up targets in Tel Aviv and Ramat Gan
Police officer responded to an anonymous tip of a booby-trapped car heading for a massive strike in downtown Jerusalem, stopped the car, terrorist detonated it, killing both of them. Was later revealed to be a setup.
Lone Palestinian gunman ambushed civilian vehicle on the road to Gush Katif, shooting and tossing grenades. Three killed on the spot, five injured, two gravely.

..then there's the pizzeria bombing, which I mentioned when I started this thread.

All of these happened in the last week or so. Is this really the work of a "peacemaking" Yasser Arafat? One who has ties to Al-Qaeda? One who orders civilian cars to be fired on? I could go back further, to massacres like the Sbarro pizzeria and Dolphinarium bombings, where loads of teenagers were killed. Or the Israeli schoolgirl, who, walking down a Jerusalem street, copped a bullet in the head. But I think I've made my point.
 
Originally posted by Learning To Fly

Did anyone notice outside of Israel? I didn't think so.

Well, I noticed... :( But then, I'm not a world leader...maybe that was what you meant?
 
Originally posted by hermanm


Well, I noticed... :( But then, I'm not a world leader...maybe that was what you meant?

No, that wasn't what I meant. I'm glad you noticed - too many people don't. I think most people in the Western world, even if they do know what's going on, have this attitude of 'oh, another one?'.
 
There is indeed a bias on that site...how could you tell? LOL :)

http://zena.secureforum.com/Znet/zmag/frabout.htm

LtF, even though I think we've got some differing political opinions going on, I did want to thank you for constantly bringing issues like these up for debate...all too often it seems like our (Americans, that is) political radar doesn't pick up all that it could, or should. You're forcing us to consciously engage these issues, and I think that's a good thing. :)
 
I've actually been paying quite a bit of attention to what's been going on in Israel, even well before the terrorist attacks out here. Not that Israel is related to the terrorist attacks in the US, but I do know a lot more people started paying more attention to world events after that happened.

Anyway, I keep going back and forth about who I'm sympathetic with. I can see both sides' case, but they are both acting like spoiled rotten two year olds also. It's absolutely ridiculous.
 
I usually tend to support rebel movements, fighting for independence or freedom. However, there's three I don't support. The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (religious dictators, or a secular dictator...I'd rather the secular dictator), the Maoist rebels in Nepal, because they massacre civilians regularly, and the Palestinians, for the same reason.

I think before anything more can be done as far as peace goes, Yasser Arafat must go. Until the genocide against Israelis stops, the Israelis will demand a hawk prime minister to defend them. Only when that stops, can we start really putting pressure on Israeli to stop their ****ry, such as the settlements.
 
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