Ballot cost Gore 6,600 votes

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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla., March 11 — A ballot design that confused voters into choosing two candidates cost Democrat Al Gore 6,607 votes in Palm Beach County, The Palm Beach Post reported in its Sunday editions.

THE NEWSPAPER counted more than 19,000 overvotes, or ballots on which more than one vote was recorded for a presidential candidate. It concluded the net gain of votes for Gore would have been 10 times more than he needed to erase Republican George W. Bush’s slim margin of 537 votes in the state.

Many voters had complained that the butterfly ballot was confusing because candidates’ names appeared on both sides of the punchcard with holes in the middle. They expected the holes to select Bush and Gore to be the first two choices as required by Florida statutes, but instead found Buchanan, on a facing page, located between them.

According to the newspaper’s review, 5,330 ballots were thrown out because voters punched chads for Gore and Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan, whose name appeared just above Gore’s.

Another 2,908 voters punched Gore’s name and Socialist David McReynolds, the candidate whose name appeared just below Gore’s.

Bush lost 1,631 votes because people selected both Bush and Buchanan. Buchanan’s name appeared just below Bush on the ballot.

The two Gore combinations, minus the Bush-Buchanan votes, add up to 6,607 lost votes for Gore.

“What it shows is what we’ve been saying all along there is no question that the majority of people on Election Day believed they left the booth voting for Al Gore,” said Ron Klain, Gore’s former chief of staff and his lead legal strategist in Florida.

BUSH BACKERS DISMISSIVE

Former Montana Gov. Marc Racicot, a vocal Bush supporter, dismissed the findings.

“You’re trying too hard to find a correlation here,” Racicot said. “You don’t know these people, you don’t know what they intended.”

The Post reported that even if 1 percent of the 6,607 votes were intended for Buchanan or McReynolds — more than their combined percent of Palm Beach County’s total vote — Gore would still have received 6,541 votes.

Three-fourths of the overvotes had punches for two candidates, most of which experts said can be attributed to the ballot design. The rest were for three or more candidates, which experts called voter error, not a design problem.

There were 5,062 voters who punched three or more choices for president. Twenty-eight voters selected all 10 presidential candidates.
The newspaper’s review of overvotes was conducted between Jan. 17 and Jan. 29.

In a story published Saturday, The Post reported that Gore would have gained 784 votes in Palm Beach County if every ballot that had a hanging chad, pinhole or dimple was counted.

Had The Post’s standard been used and its tally applied without any changes in counting procedures in Florida’s 66 other counties, the tally also would have erased Bush’s victory margin in the state.

In Palm Beach County’s official 10-day manual recount, Gore gained 174 votes. Those were not counted in the statewide tally because the county canvassing board missed the deadline by two hours.

The newspaper looked at the 9,150 ballots that county officials said had no vote for president — commonly called “undervotes” — and found that 5,736 had a mark for either Bush or Gore. There were 462,350 ballots cast in the county, which Gore carried by an almost two-to-one margin.

Want to learn more? http://www.msnbc.com/news/542335.asp

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Hermie I agree. When they anounced that Bush Had won I said Burn the Ballots. That way no one could go back and question the outcome. I just thought that it would be bad for the country for those ballots to be counted and it came out showing the wrong man in office. Oh well. Stupid Press

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Originally posted by Prox:
it came out showing the wrong man in office. Oh well. Stupid Press

Hey now, Prox, it's not the Press' fault.

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I think what he means is that the press won't leave it alone, Poss...

The thing is, even if they proved Gore won by more than a million votes, nobody is going to rip Bush out of office and stick Gore there (nice thought, but it's not gonna happen).

All we can do is hope Daddy's Boy leaves something left of the country for the next President.

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I really wish people would knock this off, since there's nothing we can do about it now.

I'm going to be an unhappy camper for the next 3 years and 10 months, but *shrug* proving that Gore was SUPPOSED to win isn't going to put him in the White House.

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How true, hermie.

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The thing is, even if they proved Gore won by more than a million votes, nobody is going to rip Bush out of office and stick Gore there (nice thought, but it's not gonna happen).

All we can do is hope Daddy's Boy leaves something left of the country for the next President.

That is why I thought that the press should leave this alone. I mean all their un official re-count did was add a bigger shadow of doubt over the legitimacy of Bush's presidency.

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Well, here's a letter to the editor from today's Chicago Tribune...read this at breakfast and just had to post it:

BARRINGTON -- At last there is a reasonable explanation for the media's premature broadcasting of the news that Al Gore had won Florida: The exit polls and the scientific measuring instruments they used were right all along, and Baby Bush did steal the election after all ("Counting dimpled chads would have put Gore over, paper says," News, March 11).

If just one of the media executives had had the courage to say so to Congress and pursue the truth, there might have been a real story to cover: the salvaging of our republic.

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I'm sorry, but I've had enough of this talk about the ballot costing Gore the election. The democratic representative of Florida had the opportunity to review the ballot before the election. The representative did not bring up any issues at the appropriate time. The democrats have no one to blame but themselves. But then again, how could they know that their supporters would be so stupid as to not know how to vote?

Myself, I'd prefer if they'd have a "none of the above" vote on the ballot. If that ends up garnishing the majority of the votes, both canidates are thrown out and the process is repeated again with the next set of representives.

And as usual, the press in this country is pathetic. Persuing nothing than what draws attention. You never (hardly ever) see the press covering corrections to stories. It's always the initial story that makes great headlines that's covered, but when the real facts of the case come out, the press is no where around to spread the truth. *sigh*


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in full agreement with you BRiT.

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