Is it time to legalize Marijuana in Washington state?

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Natsumi

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As Washington state residents know Initiative 1068 on ballots this November we will vote on whether or not to decriminalize Marijuana

Here is the video and article along with Washington residents comments:

http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/Is-it-time-to-legalize-maijuana-89868212.html

Also, here is an article explaining I-1068:

http://sensiblewashington.org/read-i-1068/ << The Initiative by the way has changed..as it will NOT make it on the ballot to meet the signatures needed. July 2nd was the deadline..I guess there's always next time
 
Seriously, I don't understand why it isn't legal in all of the US at this point. Now in MA, it's kind of legal- if you posses only under a certain amount, you pay $100 instead of going to jail.
So many people do it, and it's really not a super harmful drug. They put too much emphasis on keeping marijuana illegal, instead of focusing on more harmful drugs. I myself don't do marijuana (smoke is not very nice to my lungs!), but I've seen people who do a little every day and function just fine. Maybe taxation is a concern is marijuana becoming legal? I really don't see the harm in legalizing it.
 
Panache87 said:
Maybe taxation is a concern is marijuana becoming legal? I really don't see the harm in legalizing it.
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<< ehh I disagree with that..I saw BigDan also post that same comment on my Medical Cannabis thread. Taxation isn't a concern..they're just being way too stubborn and hardheaded about it..All these politicians are doing is fighting in a sandbox like children debating who has the bigger and better toys..(so-to-speak)

I know the comments on King5 News' homepage shows a great deal of people who all have valid points and the Initiative also. The fibers of marijuana are also so strong that they've been compared to strength of Kevlar. All sorts of goods could be made which thus creates jobs..people need to look at the big picture of it all instead that it's only known for smoking.You could eat it and also recieve the same type of high. I buy the cookies and butter cannabis at the medical shops here. So which makes that a safe alternative to smoking to save your lungs from aggravation.
 
Natsumi said:
<< ehh I disagree with that..I saw BigDan also post that same comment on my Medical Cannabis thread. Taxation isn't a concern..they're just being way too stubborn and hardheaded about it..All these politicians are doing is fighting in a sandbox like children debating who has the bigger and better toys..(so-to-speak)

I know the comments on King5 News' homepage shows a great deal of people who all have valid points and the Initiative also. The fibers of marijuana are also so strong that they've been compared to strength of Kevlar. All sorts of goods could be made which thus creates jobs..people need to look at the big picture of it all instead that it's only known for smoking.You could eat it and also recieve the same type of high. I buy the cookies and butter cannabis at the medical shops here. So which makes that a safe alternative to smoking to save your lungs from aggravation.
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I Really think it's a tax issue. Uncle Sam isn't going to legalize anything 'fun' unless it can get the so called sin tax out of it like they do with alcohol and cigarettes. Tobacco only grows in a relatively small region of the US, so they can keep and eye on who's growing what. Is it legal to grow your own tobacco?

Alcohol can be distilled anywhere but you need licenses to do so if not you face very stiff penalties. In some states you can distill small amount of alcohol for personal use and brew your own beer.

Marijuana is different it can be grown practically anywhere. It's been grown illegally all over the place for years. If its legalized even if it needs to meet some sort of government standards people will still grow their own for stronger varieties or to get around the tax. There will be no easy way to prove what is and isn't the government approved stuff.

I know that hemp has a multitude of uses. I just cannot see Uncle Sam not legalizing it because it's a mind altering substance. We already have plenty of perfectly legal mind altering substances. It's all amount money who knows maybe the cotton industry is lobbying hard too.
 
Big Dan said:
I Really think it's a tax issue. Uncle Sam isn't going to legalize anything 'fun' unless it can get the so called sin tax out of it like they do with alcohol and cigarettes. Tobacco only grows in a relatively small region of the US, so they can keep and eye on who's growing what. Is it legal to grow your own tobacco?

Alcohol can be distilled anywhere but you need licenses to do so if not you face very stiff penalties. In some states you can distill small amount of alcohol for personal use and brew your own beer.

Marijuana is different it can be grown practically anywhere. It's been grown illegally all over the place for years. If its legalized even if it needs to meet some sort of government standards people will still grow their own for stronger varieties or to get around the tax. There will be no easy way to prove what is and isn't the government approved stuff.

I know that hemp has a multitude of uses. I just cannot see Uncle Sam not legalizing it because it's a mind altering substance. We already have plenty of perfectly legal mind altering substances. It's all amount money who knows maybe the cotton industry is lobbying hard too.
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With all due respect you have valid points, but to NOT legalize it only on the point that it's "mind alterting" is ludicrous. I also use it and I'm in perfectly good health mentally and physically. Mind altering is correct but it does not do any permanent damage to the brain or other organs (Smoking I could see that) You get no drug 'hang overs' like alcohol or other legal drugs give you. I function day-to-day just fine and i'm an educated person..so those who say it has long-term damage just don't know what they're talking about. Here is a couple links I have found that back up what I say: and:
 
I agree with you not to legalize it because it is temporarily mind altering is dumb and hypocritical but since when did our government make any sense? ;)
 
Big Dan said:
I agree with you not to legalize it because it is temporarily mind altering is dumb and hypocritical but since when did our government make any sense? ;)
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I never said NOT legalize it.. maybe I should correct/clarify that. I think it should be legalized.

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Big Dan said:
when did our government make any sense? ;)
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<< Well that's something we can ALL agree on :rotfl:
 
Natsumi said:
I never said NOT legalize it.. maybe I should correct/clarify that. I think it should be legalized.

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<< Well that's something we can ALL agree on :rotfl:
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I read ya loud and clear. :)
 
I say make it legal even though never have and never will touch the stuff. BUT it should come with consequences. Like if your caught driving under the influence you get life in prison to never see the outside of a prison again. If your under the influence and somebody gets killed because of you its the electric chair straight away. If you want the freedoms fine with me but the come with consequences if you screw up.
 
Yeah...pretty harsh lol

More deaths are caused from using a cell while driving then Weed.
 
Natsumi said:
Hmm is that so? :rotfl: How come they don't do that with drinking and driving then?
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I wish they did! Then a family of two kids and the father would still be in this world who got hit by a drunk driver last week doing 85 mph in a 35 mph speed limit. This man should get a bullet to the head and be done with it for leaving a mom with no family.

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Natsumi said:
I've never had any trouble driving after smokin a fatty haha..Study shows here at this link that Marijuana doesnt have the effects on driving like the stereotypical myth implies: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5450
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Please spare me some bogus study so a person can find a excuse to be high. If you want to smoke, drink, and take drugs until your dead have at it. Just do it at home and dont expect one single dollar of my tax dollars to help you when medical issues arise.
 
ssvs04 said:
Please spare me some bogus study so a person can find a excuse to be high. If you want to smoke, drink, and take drugs until your dead have at it. Just do it at home and dont expect one single dollar of my tax dollars to help you when medical issues arise.
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Then don't reply to my posts if you think they're "bogus" I showed evidence and if you dont want to read it then please by all means don't be rude and act like **** on my threads.
 
Im being straight forward not rude. Their is a distinct difference.

And here is another study.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/researchreports/marijuana/marijuana3.html

A marijuana user may experience pleasant sensations, colors and sounds may seem more intense, and time appears to pass very slowly. The user's mouth feels dry, and he or she may suddenly become very hungry and thirsty. His or her hands may tremble and grow cold. The euphoria passes after awhile, and then the user may feel sleepy or depressed. Occasionally, marijuana use produces anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.

If this does not impair driving or anything you do I dont know what does.
 
ssvs04 said:
Im being straight forward not rude. Their is a distinct difference.

And here is another study.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/researchreports/marijuana/marijuana3.html

A marijuana user may experience pleasant sensations, colors and sounds may seem more intense, and time appears to pass very slowly. The user's mouth feels dry, and he or she may suddenly become very hungry and thirsty. His or her hands may tremble and grow cold. The euphoria passes after awhile, and then the user may feel sleepy or depressed. Occasionally, marijuana use produces anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.

If this does not impair driving or anything you do I dont know what does.
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I never experience any of those but only eurphoic moments. That's all BS. This would be for Washington State residents. Did I not make that clear at the beginning of this thread? You don't live there, so your tax dollars wouldnt support "my really bad habit" the way you make it sound. That sounds like you got that from something that was published 90 years ago.
 
No that was a pretty recent article. And here is more.

http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

http://www.doitnow.org/pages/126.html

http://www.counselingseattle.com/drugs/marijuana.htm

http://www.schickshadel.com/addiction/marijuana_addiction.php

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1808

These people are friendly towards pot and still would agree that it does impair you during use.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/marieff.htm

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/drugs-alcohol/marijuana4.htm

http://www.marijuanaaddictiontreatment.org/effects.html

http://web4health.info/gr/add-cannabis-psychosis.htm

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/effects-of-marijuana.html

http://www.vidafamilyservices.com/marijuana.htm

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/drugs-alcohol/marijuana.htm

For any one person to say it does not effect them is just silly and denial.

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Again I think people should be able to choose on their own. The problem I have is our current justice system is to lax already on other crimes. And I fear when people use this substance just like drinking to much they will do foolish things like drive. And our weak justice system will give these people a second chance. Until our justice system improves and gets really tough I don't want another substance out there that could be the cause of my family getting hurt or worse.
 
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