Israeli Retaliation for Rocket Attacks from Gaza Strip

NOTE: Since this is a war-like situation, either side might resort to misinformation or propaganda. It is the responsibility of the reader to make up their own mind about what's happening.
 
NOTE: Since this is a war-like situation, either side might resort to misinformation or propaganda. It is the responsibility of the reader to make up their own mind about what's happening.
I remember hearing that there's been a cease fire for both countries.
 
I remember hearing that there's been a cease fire for both countries.

Yup, there's been a ceasefire in effect for a few days now. But b/c Mursi (who negotiated the ceasefire on behalf of several parties) has effectively proclaimed himself dictator of Egypt today, it's a good question how long this ceasefire will last.

The situation in the region is still very, very dangerous.
 
Yup, there's been a ceasefire in effect for a few days now. But b/c Mursi (who negotiated the ceasefire on behalf of several parties) has effectively proclaimed himself dictator of Egypt today, it's a good question how long this ceasefire will last.

The situation in the region is still very, very dangerous.
Oh, I agree. I've been watching and reading about it on CNN. I've noticed that people have said the same thing on Twitter. I've also seen a comment that the ceasefire will give the countries time to "Reup" on more weapons and go back at it again. Do you think this could be true as well?
 
I've also seen a comment that the ceasefire will give the countries time to "Reup" on more weapons and go back at it again. Do you think this could be true as well?

Israel has an almost infinite stockpile of weaponry, but the Hamas-governed Gaza strip (which in reality is a half-autonomous province of Israel), after having fired thousands of rockets on Israel in the past weeks, and after Israeli bombs have taken out a significant amount of Hamas weaponry, might undertake efforts to restock their arsenal, probably by using some of their thousands of underground tunnels to Egypt to smuggle weapons over the border.

And Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood is a co-descendant of Hamas, i.e. both share the same ancestry. This means that Egypt will probably provide the Hamas with more weapons.

Now that Mursi is effectively dictator, he can use the large military of Egypt to do bad stuff -- the military used to have tremendous size and power under Mubarak, and might, still.

What those guys want is to wipe Israel off the map ... there are various groups of Muslim extremists with great influence and power that want to achieve this. Israel is seen by them as an artificial construct created by the West.

The more moderate voices of extremity simply want Israel under Arab government, but those are the tame opinions.
 
@cpvr: p.s. There's now 3 countries with major arsenals that are a potential threat to Israel, the US, and the West in general: Pakistan, Iran and Egypt. All three have Muslim extremists in their government. Pakistan already has nuclear weapons, and the West tries to prevent Iran from getting them too. Iran is a role model, a hero to those people, so it's no surprise Egypt follows the Iran model now. I hope that the people in Egypt that don't support Mursi will have some means to get their country back. Otherwise, future for us all might become very grim someday.
 
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And Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood is a co-descendant of Hamas, i.e. both share the same ancestry. This means that Egypt will probably provide the Hamas with more weapons.

Now that Mursi is effectively dictator, he can use the large military of Egypt to do bad stuff -- the military used to have tremendous size and power under Mubarak, and might, still.

What those guys want is to wipe Israel off the map ... there are various groups of Muslim extremists with great influence and power that want to achieve this. Israel is seen by them as an artificial construct created by the West.
Well ****, that's an eye opener for me because I didn't know about all this. That's crazy and some of these people will actually blow a country off the map. I think that's why the United States has also been involved with all this.
@cpvr: p.s. There's now 3 countries with major arsenals that are a potential threat to Israel, the US, and the West in general: Pakistan, Iran and Egypt. All three have Muslim extremists in their government. Pakistan already has nuclear weapons, and the West tries to prevent Iran from getting them too. Iran is a role model, a hero to those people, so it's no surprise Egypt follows the Iran model now. I hope that the people in Egypt that don't support Mursi will have some means to get their country back. Otherwise, future for us all might become very grim someday.
Yup, that's not good as well. I didn't know Pakistan had nuclear weapons though. If Iran got them, **** would hit the fan fast. Aren't they trying to get them though? Nuclear weapons are never good because they could destroy the whole world.
 
That's crazy and some of these people will actually blow a country off the map. I think that's why the United States has also been involved with all this.

In fact, the 9/11 attacks were carried out by the same people, and it was only a tiny scale terrorist attack. Although probably people in several countries helped to make them happen.

Israel is under direct protection of the US, and that's why the US is a target for those people.

They not only want to wipe Israel off the map, but the US as well, just for that reason.

Yup, that's not good as well. I didn't know Pakistan had nuclear weapons though. If Iran got them, **** would hit the fan fast. Aren't they trying to get them though? Nuclear weapons are never good because they could destroy the whole world.

The US was the first -- and so far only -- country that ever used nuclear weapons. Two bombs on Japan in 1945 wiped out the cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which effectively ended the Second World War.

So far, the deterrence power of nuclear weapons has prevented a Third World War.

However, if there's a group of people with no qualms of using them, even if they irradiate their own people in the process, things might become very dangerous.

Some people might speculate about attacks and counter-attacks and don't view nuclear weapons as such a great danger. This is when things could become terrible ... b/c if one group thinks it can use them with tolerable losses on their own side, then things can turn ugly.

To give you a picture: A modern nuclear hydrogen warhead (ignited by a plutonium warhead) has the power to directly destroy an area of at least 50 - 100 km ( 31 - 62 mi ) in diameter. The radiation will spread over several hundred or thousand km (or mi), however, to various degrees. The more bombs are being used, the higher the danger is for other people on the planet.

For example, in-air nuclear bomb tests in the 1950-1960ies have shown that fish all over the planet became irradiated, that's why those type of tests have been banned.
 
@cpvr: p.s.: Even a limited-scale nuclear war could affect the entire planet. Even if there is no nuclear winter, the radiation will travel all across the world and irradiate all kinds of food. The worst part of such a war would be surviving it, not dying in it.
 
@cpvr: p.s.: Even a limited-scale nuclear war could affect the entire planet. Even if there is no nuclear winter, the radiation will travel all across the world and irradiate all kinds of food. The worst part of such a war would be surviving it, not dying in it.
So true, and I thank you for dropping all this knowledge in this thread. So much golden information. ****, you don't see this type of information anywhere. I don't remember reading about a lot of these things in my History classes growing up in school. If I did cover it, I probably forgot.
 
So true, and I thank you for dropping all this knowledge in this thread. So much golden information. ****, you don't see this type of information anywhere. I don't remember reading about a lot of these things in my History classes growing up in school. If I did cover it, I probably forgot.

You're welcome! :)

Actually, history was one of my favorite classes in school, and I was most interested in the Republic of Weimar, which preceded the Third Reich ( = Realm ). That we had a pretty good democracy in Germany from 1919-1933, and apparently nobody wanted it, and I wanted to know why. (since 1949, we've had an improved democracy that lasted until now -- East Germany since the reunification in 1990).

Recently, I began reading a book by a British author from around 1914, when Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm II (Kaiser = Caesar btw) decided to start World War I. It is an interesting read about ideologies. It shows how an entire nation can be deluded into thinking that people must sacrifice themselves for the good of their nation, and that any individual has no worth on his/her own, except by service for the nation. This line of thinking is similar to what today's Muslim extremists undergo, the firm belief in the supremacy of their own ideology.

check these out:
Germany and Europe, by John William Allen, Great Britain, 1914 -- the book mentioned above
Modern Germany in Relation to the Great War, by William Wallace Whitelock, USA, 1916 -- English translation of a German book ("Deutschland und der Weltkrieg") that is a collection of various articles by German authors and illustrates the line of thinking during the Kaiserreich ( = Caesar's Realm, the monarchy fighting World War I that preceded the Republic of Weimar)
 
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