Light Bulb "Ban" Riles up US Lawmakers
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I find it rather silly, myself, especially the false arguments that have been said about it.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/jul/12/house-vote-light-bulb-bill-today/
Considering I'm from Canada, I'm surprised they haven't done it already. After all, it's not like the average office is worried about their light bulbs breaking or anything like that.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/jul/12/house-vote-light-bulb-bill-today/
Considering I'm from Canada, I'm surprised they haven't done it already. After all, it's not like the average office is worried about their light bulbs breaking or anything like that.
Really! Our government has time to talk about light bulbs when our country is suffering an economic downfall with people losing there homes and there jobs! Where people can't afford health care because it's so **** expensive!
Alright back to the subject of the light bulb. It's true that the government can't tell you, you can't use regular bulbs but after Jan this country will not import or make them. Which means for a box of 4 light bulbs I spend a dollar on I now have to spend 9 dollars. It's not bad enough we have to pay more for food, gas, clothing and now we have to pay more for these **** bulbs. When do we ever get a break?
I suggest that between now and then, all of you should go to the store and purchase as many boxes of light bulbs this way you'll have enough for a least a couple of years.
Alright back to the subject of the light bulb. It's true that the government can't tell you, you can't use regular bulbs but after Jan this country will not import or make them. Which means for a box of 4 light bulbs I spend a dollar on I now have to spend 9 dollars. It's not bad enough we have to pay more for food, gas, clothing and now we have to pay more for these **** bulbs. When do we ever get a break?
I suggest that between now and then, all of you should go to the store and purchase as many boxes of light bulbs this way you'll have enough for a least a couple of years.
CFL's and LED's aren't bad either, they need much less energy.
To give you two examples, an 8W CFL is as bright as a 60W (@220V) light bulb, and even a 1W LED light makes a pretty good spotlight. The only disadvantages of CFL is that they can't go into remaining garbage and that the light isn't as steady as the flood from an incandescent bulb, but greener CFLs are being worked on.
LED lights as they're currently built have a limited life span due to cooling problems, but they still last much longer than an incandescent bulb.
Perhaps one day we can all have OLED wallpaper, then all those bulbs are gone for good!
In my apartment, incandescent bulbs were breaking frequently (every couple of months), so I migrated to CFLs, until LED lights with better power are available (it seems they're slowly coming).
I have one CFL lamp from France that lasted for 9 years, and counting!
(the better ones have an angular shape at the end of two tubes, the curved ones don't last that long)
To give you two examples, an 8W CFL is as bright as a 60W (@220V) light bulb, and even a 1W LED light makes a pretty good spotlight. The only disadvantages of CFL is that they can't go into remaining garbage and that the light isn't as steady as the flood from an incandescent bulb, but greener CFLs are being worked on.
LED lights as they're currently built have a limited life span due to cooling problems, but they still last much longer than an incandescent bulb.
Perhaps one day we can all have OLED wallpaper, then all those bulbs are gone for good!
In my apartment, incandescent bulbs were breaking frequently (every couple of months), so I migrated to CFLs, until LED lights with better power are available (it seems they're slowly coming).
I have one CFL lamp from France that lasted for 9 years, and counting!
(the better ones have an angular shape at the end of two tubes, the curved ones don't last that long)
Perhaps one day we can all have OLED wallpaper, then all those bulbs are gone for good!
lol Monster now that is a great idea. There is your million dollar invention, I suggest you start working on this project right now before someone else does and receives credit for it.
lol Monster now that is a great idea. There is your million dollar invention, I suggest you start working on this project right now before someone else does and receives credit for it.
Haha ... unfortunately, I'm not the first! OLED wallpaper was being imagined right from the beginning of printable OLED research in the '90ies or when it began.
There has been the promise of printable OLED (and the actual manufacturing process does involve printing), but currently, electricity is transferred using a similar (transistor-based) process as with LCD panels. But with a wallpaper, perhaps a simpler process could be sufficient.
If you're interested in some scientific entertainment, the Wikipedia article about OLED has a lot of interesting info!
Look, it already exists! (Google-translated)
It says that company Lomox will bring the first OLED wallpaper to market in 2012.
(Google-translated)It says that company Lomox will bring the first OLED wallpaper to market in 2012.
Really! Our government has time to talk about light bulbs when our country is suffering an economic downfall with people losing there homes and there jobs! Where people can't afford health care because it's so **** expensive!
Alright back to the subject of the light bulb. It's true that the government can't tell you, you can't use regular bulbs but after Jan this country will not import or make them. Which means for a box of 4 light bulbs I spend a dollar on I now have to spend 9 dollars. It's not bad enough we have to pay more for food, gas, clothing and now we have to pay more for these **** bulbs. When do we ever get a break?
I suggest that between now and then, all of you should go to the store and purchase as many boxes of light bulbs this way you'll have enough for a least a couple of years.
When you count the fact that CFLs, LEDs, or even Halogen light bulbs last longer and use less energy (hence, lower energy bill), you're going to the store less, so of course it's going to cost more, but your overall costs are still therefore lower.
Here's one.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=find_a_product.showProductGroup&pgw_code=LB
And another.
http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led comp chart.html - this source includes LEDs and not just CFLs.
LEDs both beat the incandescent bulb and don't leak mercury or whatever that argument was. Regardless, you're still not seeing office Flourescent lightbulbs being replaced by incandescents. It's mostly because incandescents produce 90% heat rather than anything. Besides, only in America do you complain about what lightbulbs you use. Countries like Brazil started the phase-out in 2005, Australia and the EU started in 09, and even Canada is starting next year.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=find_a_product.showProductGroup&pgw_code=LB
And another.
http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led comp chart.html - this source includes LEDs and not just CFLs.
LEDs both beat the incandescent bulb and don't leak mercury or whatever that argument was. Regardless, you're still not seeing office Flourescent lightbulbs being replaced by incandescents. It's mostly because incandescents produce 90% heat rather than anything. Besides, only in America do you complain about what lightbulbs you use. Countries like Brazil started the phase-out in 2005, Australia and the EU started in 09, and even Canada is starting next year.
The Wikipedia page on CFLs contains a lot of information about CFLs, and links to studies etc.
The lighting website of the European Commission also contains some useful info.
Also, for the record, the argument is all BS. Here are some examples.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/nov/21/joe-barton/rep-joe-barton-says-four-pack-incandescent-bulbs-c/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jan/26/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-says-government-tells-us-what-lig/
http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2011/jun/16/mike-stenhouse/head-ri-public-policy-group-says-federal-law-bans-/
Today, I installed my first LED bulbs that are akin to incandescent bulbs.
This (click to enlarge) :
Philips MASTER LEDbulb MV dimmable, 12W E27 2700K 220-240V 70 mA (!!).
It can be used to replace 60W incandescent bulbs, and gives off a warm white light. It is pretty heavy and has a huge heat sink, so it requires a lamp body that is open to the air.
It lasts up to 15 years ( @ 4 hours a day in an open lamp body ), up to 2.5 years when running continuously.
The light is so bright you can barely look into it!
They're slightly brighter than comparable CFLs. Philips also has similar daylight bulbs.
They're also selling OLED but mostly for business use currently.
Of course, there's now plenty of other similar products available from other companies, but I liked the design of this bulb!
The advantage of LED bulbs is that they don't break due to vibrations or temperature variations. They're currently still pretty expensive (EUR 30-40 a piece!), but to me, they're worth it.
This (click to enlarge) :
Philips MASTER LEDbulb MV dimmable, 12W E27 2700K 220-240V 70 mA (!!).
It can be used to replace 60W incandescent bulbs, and gives off a warm white light. It is pretty heavy and has a huge heat sink, so it requires a lamp body that is open to the air.
It lasts up to 15 years ( @ 4 hours a day in an open lamp body ), up to 2.5 years when running continuously.
The light is so bright you can barely look into it!
They're slightly brighter than comparable CFLs. Philips also has similar daylight bulbs.
They're also selling OLED but mostly for business use currently.
Of course, there's now plenty of other similar products available from other companies, but I liked the design of this bulb!
The advantage of LED bulbs is that they don't break due to vibrations or temperature variations. They're currently still pretty expensive (EUR 30-40 a piece!), but to me, they're worth it.