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I've spoken about my dad before on other sites, but recently it's gotten worse again so I thought I should ask for some advice. Last night, he just started on me again, saying I was useless and that I won't get anywhere in life, just because I'd been in all day due to being ill. He's always said this, he never supports or encourages me and when I finally opened up about it all properly to my boyfriend, he said it was pathetic and cruel. My own mother said he was a bully towards me and he has something against me and we don't know why. But it's not only that, he has some serious problems mentally. I've looked it up and he shows passive aggressive behaviour and is covertly abusive to me and my mum and the worst thing is, he doesn't see it and he blames everyone else. He's also very controlling and paranoid towards my mum. I can work non stop for months, but if I go one week without a shift, he notices and starts calling me lazy and useless! He said I go on the computer too much when actually, I go out whenever I can and he's on his computer 24/7 claiming to be doing work when all I ever see him on is games and youtube! He even misses family events for his beloved computer.
It's extremely hard to describe how he treats us; it's all psychological mind games which drives us both insane. It's pushed my mum to the edge; she's put up with it for over 20 years but she draws the line when he starts bullying me and knocking me down. It's been me and my mum against him for years. She blames him for my low self esteem as he just brings me down all the time, but she blames herself for a lot of things because he manipulates everything to make her feel that way. I always have to reassure her that she's right and she's brought me up well. One of the most annoying parts is when my mum's in work after an argument like this, he'll sit down with me and start saying loads of bullshit about my mum! He lies and manipulates ****, so when he tells me other people agree with him, it's because he hasn't told them the whole truth (and we have proof of that). He basically tries to turn me against my mum but it never works because I know he's the one in the wrong. He basically said that all the wrongs in my life was also my mums fault like my choice in boyfriends, my lack of real friends and the fact I took an unintentional gap year! It obviously isn't her fault but he genuinely believes it! And he seems to believe that I'm stupid enough to believe all the bullshit he comes out with to turn me against my mum, despite the fact that I either ignore him or disagree with everything he says about her. I can't even bring myself to tell him that he's psycho, he's the one in the wrong etc. He even was saying that it's because she's going through menopause when she's far from and has shown no signs of menopause, it's just that she's sticking up for herself for once which he's not used too! He's driven my mum so mad that both her and him smashed the house up the other day. That was the worst and I felt like crying but I held it together for my mum.

I've been wanting them to split up for a year or two now and I've gotten to the point where I wanted to move out but I couldn't due to no money and nowhere to go. I even considered running away to a runaway refuge because I couldn't handle it but I just thought that would be selfish and I wouldn't like to leave my mum alone with him. My mum slept with me for the first time last night and she told me how she wants to move out and away from him but she can't afford it, nor can she afford a divorce. It's almost like she's legally forced into staying with my dad. She can't get a council flat because they'd just say she has a home. If she rented, it'd be dead money and she'd only have about ?50 left over each month for food for us both, she can't stay with her dad forever, nor do I want to live with him. She also doesn't like the idea of growing old alone, which I understand but like, it's better than living with him and his psychotic episodes! We don't know what to do. :sad:

Please, don't say that I love him really, he's my father and people fall out with their parents. This is a whole new level and I'm fed up of people just thinking I'm overreacting over something like a small argument. I hate him 96% of the time. It's psychologically messing up me and my mum and I usually live in fear of him. I've even had recurring nightmares, depicting his personality perfectly. It's a form of abuse and there's just no way to escape it. :sad:
 
Oh my God Hannah, that sounds awful! My mum left my dad when I was a few months old and if she had stayed with him then my life would have probably been like that. I'll give you one piece of advice: .. don't run away! It will only make things worse for your mum. No matter how bad the situation is, stick together, you need each other for support. Is there any way you can escape him? Your mum could kick him out.. or do what my mum did, and leave him. That's if you're desperate to get away. Don't let him control you, don't let him bring you down. He's trying to get into your thoughts, don't let him win and get away with it. You can talk to me whenever you want hun. <3 x
 
I wish I could give sound advice, but I don't quite know myself. Do you have any other family members you and your mum could stay with for a while?
Is there maybe some sort of specialist who can help you?

I think I can only say that you at least have your mum's support, and she has yours. Your father can try to manipulate your relationship all he wants - he won't succeed, and we both know it.
 
I don't mean to draw attention to myself because I actually don't care anymore, but my dad is like yours and can be worse but at least your mum believes everything thats going on (like my dad can be mean to my mum but she never believes me when i say anything about him so i've just kinda given up now) Like I feel really mean for even commenting because I'm not exactly giving advice but I keep seeing these threads.... Just live with it, it sucks I know. Just don't lash out because it just makes everything worse ygm and don't leave your mum :) You'll be okay as long as you have people you can have good times with. If you ever want to message me you can :)
 
Oh my God Hannah, that sounds awful! My mum left my dad when I was a few months old and if she had stayed with him then my life would have probably been like that. I'll give you one piece of advice: .. don't run away! It will only make things worse for your mum. No matter how bad the situation is, stick together, you need each other for support. Is there any way you can escape him? Your mum could kick him out.. or do what my mum did, and leave him. That's if you're desperate to get away. Don't let him control you, don't let him bring you down. He's trying to get into your thoughts, don't let him win and get away with it. You can talk to me whenever you want hun. <3 x
My mum wouldn't be able to kick him out, he'd never leave. She can't just leave, because she has no money and nowhere to go. The only place we could potentially stay is my Grampy's up the road but I don't like my step nan, they smoke which isn't good for my asthma and it's just not a nice environment to be in for a long time. We couldn't exactly stay there for months and I'm starting college in a couple months so I don't want it to affect my studies, moving from place to place. But thankyou for the advice and support. :)

I wish I could give sound advice, but I don't quite know myself. Do you have any other family members you and your mum could stay with for a while?
Is there maybe some sort of specialist who can help you?

I think I can only say that you at least have your mum's support, and she has yours. Your father can try to manipulate your relationship all he wants - he won't succeed, and we both know it.
My dad would never see a specialist or marriage counsellor, he's in denial of his behaviour and always thinks he can never do any right for my mum. It just doesn't get through to him. Me and my mum are close and he even uses that as an excuse for my upbringing, saying she should never have befriended me! Thanks for the help though. :)

I don't mean to draw attention to myself because I actually don't care anymore, but my dad is like yours and can be worse but at least your mum believes everything thats going on (like my dad can be mean to my mum but she never believes me when i say anything about him so i've just kinda given up now) Like I feel really mean for even commenting because I'm not exactly giving advice but I keep seeing these threads.... Just live with it, it sucks I know. Just don't lash out because it just makes everything worse ygm and don't leave your mum :) You'll be okay as long as you have people you can have good times with. If you ever want to message me you can :)
She has periods where she sticks up for him sometimes which annoys me. When they argue, she says he's psycho, but when they're no longer arguing and I say the same things, she's like, 'that's not true, don't be so harsh' and I think it's part of the manipulation thing. It's hard to watch in all honesty. My mum is such a lovely woman and she deserves so much better, but he's bringing her down. I've lived with it all my life, so I want to get away from it and for it to stop. Now she's willing to get away but we have no way of doing it. But thanks for the help and I'm sorry you have to go through the same thing.
 
Usually, whenever there is a family matter, I feel I can turn to my Grandfather for help. Is there a family member who might be able to give you some advice?
 
Nah, I'm not really close to anyone. My Grampy kind of knows what's going on but I would never ask him for advice.
 
She has periods where she sticks up for him sometimes which annoys me. When they argue, she says he's psycho, but when they're no longer arguing and I say the same things, she's like, 'that's not true, don't be so harsh' and I think it's part of the manipulation thing. It's hard to watch in all honesty. My mum is such a lovely woman and she deserves so much better, but he's bringing her down. I've lived with it all my life, so I want to get away from it and for it to stop. Now she's willing to get away but we have no way of doing it. But thanks for the help and I'm sorry you have to go through the same thing.

Aww maybe it's to make life easier idk D: And you don't need to be sorry :p
 
I'm really sorry to hear this Hannah :( I've had issues with my dad but I must say they've never been anything like this. I don't really know what advice to give other than to say I hope you work it all out soon :'(
 
[MENTION=1395]Hannah[/MENTION]. First of all you are NOT useless. Lets get that sorted out straight away. You are a special human being and should be treasured as one.

It is all ways hard to offer advice when one is not there to see what is going on. Family disputes are hard to fix. I am sure there are organizations near you that can advise and help. It sounds as though he needs professional help. A Females role is to nurture life and a males role is to PROTECT it. This is the natural order of things.

It is clear that this needs to be fixed and others whose job it is to do this need to be involved. I understand it is hard for you, but it does seem that he has mental issues.

Your mum and you need to look at ways of getting out of the situation. Things may look bleak but a strong desire to improve things can be a godsend.

I wish you all the best and remember NO one can take your dignity away from you. Nor can any one ever break the special bond between a mother and her daughter.
 
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