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I volunteer for a group that helps teenagers deal with problems in my area just as a bit of experience and something to keep me busy. It's very selective, and our group has maybe ten or so volunteers (with another five to eight coming this year). I applied and was successful at the beginning of 2012. We stay in training for a year and then we move up a rank and help with bigger problems.

Basically, we have a small program (like a forum), where we communicate with each other. There's two separate programs, one that both full volunteers and the trainees can see, and one that only the full volunteers can see. I graduated training at the beginning of the year, and due to some technical problems, I couldn't access the program for full volunteers until a couple of days ago. Here's where the problem starts. I was looking through the threads and I came across an old archived one that had all the most recent volunteer applications in it (including mine). The boss had asked all the volunteers to weigh in on the applications just as a precaution to make sure he hadn't missed anything and he wasn't going to hire an inadequate person.

So I'm looking at my application and the comments that follow it. Of course, I'm good friends with all the volunteers who gave comments now. And when they give a comment, they don't know that the application is mine. I got some nice comments from people I didn't really expect, which was nice. But then two of the people whom I admire and who trained me gave really critical comments and told the boss to reject my application (they didn't know it was mine) and gave a list of reasons (I think their reasons were really pedantic and ****ty, to be completely honest). I was a bit shocked, since I really like them, but I also thought their criticism was just totally misplaced and unnecessary. It was based on things that I wouldn't have known unless I was actually a volunteer. And some of it was based on subjective opinion. I'm surprised I even got the position, considering both of the most important volunteers told the boss to reject my application.

So now I'm not sure how to act around them. They almost got my application completely rejected for bullshit reasons. On top of that, we have the new applications coming in some time this year, which means the boss will probably ask us to weigh in on those applications. I'm thinking of making a point of not judging the applications with misplaced criticism (only relevant criticism) and being as objective as possible... I'll even call out these two volunteers if they start being asses about it. Or maybe I'll suggest that feedback is given in private? That way, applicants who do eventually become full volunteers don't have to see the unnecessarily harsh feedback they got for their application.

What do you think? Am I being too pathetic? I feel like I am. But I just trusted and admired these people and what they did, and this has just pissed me off so much.

TL;DR: Colleagues who I thought were nice (and still are) turned out to unknowingly reject my application for ****y reasons. What do?
 
I personally think that this would be much worse if they actually KNEW who you were.

An example I have is that I recently was upped in rank in another website I use which I've been a part of since I was about 12/13 so of course I said and did lots of stupid things. Now I have became a staff member I can see all the things I did wrong and everything that was said about me and I felt like the ****tiest person even when I saw the stuff. I honestly felt as though I wasn't worth anything to them, despite having grown up a fair bit since I acted out. It's worse in a way because my team mates know who I am and what I did and I know exactly what each one of them thought of me. It's not a nice feeling.

My advice to you?
Work hard and show them you can kick **** at what you do.
Is it against "the rules" to tell them which one was yours? Because I bet that showing them how good you are will only make them completely reconsider what they thought about your application. Besides, they didn't know you personally so it's much easier to be harsh and a little unfair unfortunately.
Did you know if they had to be careful how many they accepted? Because that can cause people to be extremely picky, I've experienced it myself when trying to get placements.
 
Perhaps message the boss and ask him to completely hide the applications once they've been discussed; there's no need for them to remain visible and, in cases such as you've just described, could lead to issues down the line.

As for the two friends of yours, I'd leave them for now. If you want to, when the next bunch of applications come in you could use your own (unbeknownst to them) as an example of how not to deliver opinion. At the end of the day your application has been accepted, so you'd probably only make things worse for yourself by bringing it up with them directly now.
 
I personally think that this would be much worse if they actually KNEW who you were.
Totally. I'm thankful my application was anonymous, but it's likely that the boss told these two volunteers (both ladies) which application belonged to whom, considering they're sort of higher in rank and have been around longer. If he did tell them, they would have found out long after I was into my training.

An example I have is that I recently was upped in rank in another website I use which I've been a part of since I was about 12/13 so of course I said and did lots of stupid things. Now I have became a staff member I can see all the things I did wrong and everything that was said about me and I felt like the ****tiest person even when I saw the stuff. I honestly felt as though I wasn't worth anything to them, despite having grown up a fair bit since I acted out. It's worse in a way because my team mates know who I am and what I did and I know exactly what each one of them thought of me. It's not a nice feeling.
That's sort of how I feel. I don't know how I even got the position considering they both went against my application. I choose to think that the boss guy disagreed with them and chose my anyway, that may be right or wrong. I'm not sure.

My advice to you?
Work hard and show them you can kick **** at what you do.
Is it against "the rules" to tell them which one was yours? Because I bet that showing them how good you are will only make them completely reconsider what they thought about your application. Besides, they didn't know you personally so it's much easier to be harsh and a little unfair unfortunately.
Did you know if they had to be careful how many they accepted? Because that can cause people to be extremely picky, I've experienced it myself when trying to get placements.
I'm pretty much trying to do my best and also having fun while I'm at it. I don't feel like I need to impress them though, thankfully. I just feel like I want to explain why their criticism was wrong and the parts they misunderstood (not everyone had a problem with the things I said in my application). It's not exactly against the rules to tell them which is mine, I just don't think they'll particularly care and they'll think it's petty. They probably view it as in the past and not relevant anymore since I'm already in the position and doing well.

The applications my boss put forward to them were the top ones he'd chosen. He only gave them six or so to review, and we had about six people (including me) come onto the team. Some of the volunteers completely rejected one application, and I have a feeling that person is working with us anyway. It wasn't so much a case of them having the final say about an application, but more so whether they thought it was a good or bad application. So yeah.

Thanks for your input, Lauren. :D
 
Perhaps message the boss and ask him to completely hide the applications once they've been discussed; there's no need for them to remain visible and, in cases such as you've just described, could lead to issues down the line.
I was considering this. Not now, because I don't want to make myself seem petty, but when the new recruit applications come in, I'll tell the boss that I think it's a better idea for our opinions to be given in private. I think it's a real oversight.

As for the two friends of yours, I'd leave them for now. If you want to, when the next bunch of applications come in you could use your own (unbeknownst to them) as an example of how not to deliver opinion. At the end of the day your application has been accepted, so you'd probably only make things worse for yourself by bringing it up with them directly now.
You've got a good point. If I rock the boat now, it would most likely cause problems. I'll probably make a point of it when the new recruit applications come in, and I'll sort of let people know that I completely disagree with letting personal opinions and feelings dictate our ultimate choice.

Thanks for the advice. :D
 
You're welcome :)

Good that you don't feel like you need to impress them.
In all fairness, they didn't know you so it's not like they were going to try and be nice.
They probably feel being critical is the most constructive way plus it's their jobs so they're going to try and do it in the best way they feel it is best. I'm sure they wouldn't say the same about you now :) they probably just needed to see how you worked to fully appreciate your capabilities.
 
TL;DR: Colleagues who I thought were nice (and still are) turned out to unknowingly reject my application for ****y reasons. What do?

THis made my day. I spent 1min reading it when i could just have gone to the bottom line. AHAHAHAH

anyway, I think you should talk to them regarding your application and let them know that you know. if they get like embarassed, it means they're sorry. If they don't give a rat's ****, i think you should consider meeting new acquaintances since they may be nice but they're not very good as a person.

Also, give a private Feedback. you dont want to cause too much trouble.
 
Honestly? Ignore it and just make sure you work hard, show that you're worth being a full volunteer.

They obviously have nothing against you personally- people have to be tough and honestly critical when hiring in order to get the best people on for the job. It sounds rather like the hiring process for volunteer staff on the website I moderate on, and it works just fine there.
 
Thanks for all your advice!

Honestly, I'm probably just being a bit too pathetic about this. I just didn't expect that they would all have seen my application, and I didn't expect the sort of criticism they gave. They give you a list of scenarios and you have to respond to how you would handle them (to see what sort of person you are, get an approximation of your personality and competence). And they criticised me for not knowing the group's procedure on certain things... I mean... I wasn't even hired yet. How the hell would I know group procedure?

Oh well. I'm glad I'm pretty much over it now. I just needed to rant more than anything else.
 
i'm actually going through a very similar thing right now LMAO, except my application wasn't anonymous and they knew me by name.

it's honestly the least professional thing anyone can do- drag out incredibly nit-picky, personal reasons to reject someone; but they feel they have a reason to, and they will probably argue it until the day they die. confrontation will not work at all.
a lot of people can't separate personal opinion from professional opinion and can't behave as if they can. in my experience, it's actually very rare for people to handle putting aside personal feelings in terms of business. especially one like the one you applied for- it sounds like a lot of the staff is going to have to be very buddy-buddy.

i'm always tempted to do something petty (like idk, start a riot. crash servers. talk **** get hit. act like i'm badass.), but it's always a bad idea in the long run, lmao.
so like everyone said, best thing to do is just keep on keepin' on, maybe keep some of their points in mind so you can further prove them wrong. try not to be spiteful, because they'll notice and get huffy. do the best at your job and out work them. be friendly, etc. etc.
if they're good at their job, then them being jerkasses is going to be overlooked. so it happens a lot.

but yeah i 100% understand how you feel and what you're going through. it sucks ****, i think i cried for like two hours straight when i found out and vented to friends for like a week straight. i'm still pretty angry about it, but whatever i'll move on eventually haha (i don't even blame them for what they said; a lot of it i actually do need to improve on. still hurts, though. torques my taco that they dragged out a lot of stuff from my past too)
people are dumb. especially when they think they hold power over others. dumbdumb. jerks
 
Thanks for weighing in. :D

I guess what surprised me the most was that these people are really nice to me, and it just surprised me that they were so harsh in criticising my application. And it reminds me that no matter how nice they are to me, they were almost responsible for me not getting this position. I am over it now, thank ****. I don't want to get caught up in this because it's not really worth it. I just wanted to vent because I almost felt betrayed, like they had been talking about me behind my back even though they hadn't done that at all.
 
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