recount ends on tuesday now?

Palm Beach people stuffed it again.
Gore's talking about calling for a completely new vote within Palm Beach, as it's so flawed.
 
Palm Beach residents should have the right to be able to revote! I mean, even if I was for Bush, I still think it's unfair and unconstitutional to the people that they can't revote since their votes went to Pat instead of Al.
I was watching CNN earlier, and the Republican dude Baker brung up 1960 and 1976 when Nixon and Ford were behind in real close votes, but Ford refused to hae a recount because it's for the good of the country. Well, I feel that it's for the good of the country that a revote takes place, cuz if Gore gets in office, then we don't have to worry about the bad things Bush brings about (opinion)....but, if Bush gets elected in then the Constitution will be changed and the electoral college will have a different system...cuz this is just retarded, all these recounts and no revotes.

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I need to make a point of clarification to you guys about the president's power:

I voted for our president based on a few things:

1) Will he make a good Commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces?

2) Will he run his administration with dignity and honor?

3) Will he pursue and aggressive foreign policy?

4) Will he work aggressively with Congress and the Judicial system to keep government running as it should?

5) Will he do his primary job in enforcing the laws of the land?

That's it. The president CANNOT:

1) Make or change laws. He can only put a bill through the House and Senate like any other representative can. He can veto a law, but the Senate can turn back around and vote the bill into law over his veto.

2) Ammend the Constitution. To change the electoral college, one has to ammend the Constitution. To do this, and I forget the exact details, one has to go through several processes. I can't remember all of it, but their is a petition process, a popular vote process, and a Congressional voting process....all very stringent on the majorities (3/4 or 2/3 or something). Someone please post that process if you know it.

So, while a president may be quite influential, he does not have total control....our Constitution forbids it. So relax. I seriously doubt the world is coming to an end based on who gets in office.
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No, I don't think the world is going to come to and end, but if Bush comes to power, lives will be lost at the hands of his foreign policy.
 
The Amendment Process
Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
sounds confusing but i think i get it . . . 2/3 of both houses propose an amendment then 3/4 of the states have to approve it . . . well at least that is what i think it says?? if anyone can read that language please do inform.

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all Bush is for, in my opinion, is to have a unbelievably strong military, which is in fact what we already have. People think that if GOre is elected we won't have a strong military in our posession anymore...well that's pretty ignorant considering the government and Constitution won't allow it...

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about the whole revoting thing......the people shouldn't be able to, for two main reasons.
1) if they can't figure out that damned ballot, they obviously aren't smart enough to choose the next president of the country.
2) if they noticed that they voted for the wrong person, you can go up to the people running the voting thing, and ask for an 'aphidavid', or however you spell it. then they can vote for who they really wanted to.

so, it's their problem.
and one thing i dislike about gore, is his policy on medicare ( i think that's what it's called.) he believes that equal care should be given to all elderly (or any one) people. bush believes that more should be given to people who can't afford as much. does this make sense to only me? i have a friend who's grandma still hasn't gotten the care she needs, under bush, she'd get what she needs. under gore, she wouldn't. i just can't support such a man.

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you know...like the eminem song......
 
WHAT!?!?!?!?! How can you say Bush is for people who can't afford stuff!?!? Obviously you haven't been following, cuz it's exactly the opposite. Gore is for the people who can't afford things, and Bush is for the rich and elderly. Oh my god...you REALLY need to do your research before you talk. Jesus man...I cannot believe you had the guts to say that. Honestly, that's the most retarded thing I've ever seen (and don't worry mth and Lys...I'm friends with her...shes my wife for crying out loud
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obviously *you* haven't done your research. in most cases, i would agree that bush is more willing to help the richer people. but you haven't been following his views on medicare.

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you know...like the eminem song......
 
*sigh*
Whatever...I keep forgetting you're younger than I am....you have a lot to learn little one

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Oh, puh-lease. Bush willing to help the poor?
That's like saying that Hitler was willing to help Jews.

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thank you PIT...
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*high sevens PIT*
Now that's the way you need to put it! Great simile!

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I'm glad someone agrees.

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Originally posted by PsychoticIckyThing:
Oh, puh-lease. Bush willing to help the poor?
That's like saying that Hitler was willing to help Jews.

i'm sorry, but i find *extrememly* offensive that you'd compare the two. and yes, bush can help the poor.



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'you don't, wanna f*ck with scary, cause scary, will f*cking kill you.....'
you know...like the eminem song......
 
Oh do you now?

Bush can help the poor?
That'd be the day.

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From the Word Association thread.
Me: Splat.
Mth: PsychoticIckyThing
Me: Genius
Mth: ::snort::
 
bush *can* help the poor. you have no proof that he can't

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<font color="#000000">[Edited by !the_scarier_one! on November 12, 2000 (edited 1 time)]</font>
 
Oh really...?
I think you might wanna edit that above post after our little debate...

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From the Word Association thread.
Me: Splat.
Mth: PsychoticIckyThing
Me: Genius
Mth: ::snort::
 
Prox, here is my translation of the older language:

It appears there are a few ways to get an ammendment through based on what I am reading. All the ways go through a proposal vote and a ratification vote:

a) 2/3 proposal vote of both House and Senate or 2/3 proposal vote of state legislatures of all states (several states?). Note, I am assuming several to mean all and not a majority. It could also be interpreted, it seems, as many states...not necessarily a majority or all states.

b) To ratify...3/4 vote of state legislatures of several states (so I think it must mean all states). or 3/4 general vote.

You can't do two things, though. You can't deprive a state of equal senatorial representation (equal suffrage) unless they give consent to that, and if it were before 1808, you couldn't make changes to clauses 1 and 4 of section 9 of article 1.

These are strict votes, so that means it is VERY DIFFICULT to ammend the U.S. constitution.

Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the history/civics lesson review. It's good to always stay on top of things like that.

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