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Boone

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From the news reports I've been reading it seems that it's too late to rescue any of the sailors from the sub. They've been given up for dead. What a tragedy.

To all the men and women who serve or haved served in our armed forces I salute you. You have bled and died for your countries and for the sacrifices you have made you will always be remembered with honor. You will never be forgotten.

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<font color="#000000">[Edited by Boone on August 19, 2000 (edited 2 times)]</font>
 
this story is heartbreaking. the thought of them suffering down there makes me sick.

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"it's easier to stay out than get out"
 
If you are reading this, take a moment to think about any loved ones or friends you know serving in the armed forces (of whatever nationality you are from) and take a moment of silence to think about how what they are doing benefits us all.

This is heartbreaking as this not only effects them, but it impacts their friends and family, as well. I have both friends and family who have served or are currently serving in the military. What they do is sometimes a thankless job.
 
Well in my opinion, it's that pride is a factor or the fact that everybody over there is a f*ckin idiot. Take your pick. A third reason could be there is something about that sub the russian gov. doesn't want other countries to know. There has been too many inconsistencies of the facts throughout the whole reporting of this situation. It almost seems to me that those men died so that some truth can remain hidden. This is just my opinion though.

Boone
 
eminem&gt; I think they were embarassed enough by the loss of another vessel not too long ago and to have a former enemy save them. Plus, their president didn't want to get his big keester out from vacation.

I feel so sorry for those men. My brother was asked to join the US navy to man a nuclear sub but we talked him out of it. He joined the AF a year after I did. My prayers go out for those sailors and their family.

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yup, i think boone is right here. pride played a big role along w/info. that "went down w/the ship" that will remain undisclosed
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so **** sad that they would put all this before the lives of these guys.
 
I dunno if some of the links said this, but all of the crew is dead. The news this morning said that most of them prolly died when the explosion ocurred (sp?). As to why Russia was too stubborn to ask for help, from what I heard, it was a security issue. They didn't want anyone to know more about their subs, military, etc. than possible.

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You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help. - Calvin
 
pride/too much info on there/stupidity...they all played parts if you ask me.



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"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience."

- Woodrow Wilson
 
From what I heard it sounded like the sub was doing something it shouldn't have been doing, and the Russians didn't want everyone to know what they were up to.

This reminds me of a story my grandfather told my father. My grandfather worked at Bell Aircraft (the company which built Yeager's plane that first broke the sound barrier). From time to time test pilots would come to Bell's runway in Buffalo and test new equipment. One time there were some Russian pilots on some sort of exchange rogram or something and they were doing crazy stuff like flying upside down about 10 feet above the ground. The American test pilots (who tend to be crazy anyway) and the Bell staff were amazed by this. The Russians later said something to the effect of "That's the problem with you Americans, you are afraid to die." I think this illustrates the differences between our ideolgy and that of Russia. Here we think of it as a horrible tragedy. There, those young men are heroes who died for their country. There probably is no outcry and the people are probably happy they didn't get outside help in order to save secrets. Although I'm sure it isn't like it was before 1990.

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Oh, no. There was public outcry. The news showed some clips of *VERY* pissed off Russians. Unfortunately, due to their government, their outcry prolly won't do a darn bit of good.

On the 23 that were still alive, I can't imagine being the salvage guy to find that in the soldier's pocket. Can you imagine how utterly *horrible* that would be? God.

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ain't that the truth!

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As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers


Loyalty and love are the best things of all, and surely the most lasting. -- My Dog Skip
 
Still, I'd rather be one of the other 2/3 than that 23 who had a more awful fate....

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