Do players that have a history of roids belong in HOF?
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You still have to hit a 100MPH fastball. (in the MLB) I say yes.
I'm going to say no, but can see the arguments for both sides. I know a lot of roiders got away with doing it, but it just doesn't seem right to me that somebody cheating belongs in the Hall of Fame. It just cheapens what it means to be there if you start letting players that have been caught with PED's to get in.
****, first off, props on a tough question.
Steroids.. if they could 100% test everyone and started a rule where as if youa re caught, your season XXXX doesn't count towards any records then sure.
People want to win though, they dont care about records so cheating would still happen imo.
So, if a player has a season redacted from his global stats but he still breaks records, then yes, HOF. Should a known cheater from the past be in there, yes. Should a player caught today be allowed in later, well, they need to find a way to make it all fair.
Crazy question really.
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If the records and stats that got the player in the HOF were achieved while on steroids then no.
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Babe Ruth used to play high and drunk. Should he be what he is?
It really depends. For guys like Sosa and McGwire, who were basically pure power hitters who were never great until the advent of steroids, absolutely not.
For someone like Barry Bonds, who was a fantastic player in his own right long before he used steroids, I think it's a different answer. It's a little difficult to go case by case since the details will almost certainly never be known, but I think to say it's an unequivocal no is shortsighted and foolish.
For someone like Barry Bonds, who was a fantastic player in his own right long before he used steroids, I think it's a different answer. It's a little difficult to go case by case since the details will almost certainly never be known, but I think to say it's an unequivocal no is shortsighted and foolish.
That's not actually true. Mark Mcgwire was an all star level player, just like Barry Bonds before the whole steroid thing. But in both cases, maybe they don't deserve to be just on the message it sends alone.
Sosa however, you never even heard of this guy until the steroid thing and the home run race with Mark. And the moment using creiten became banned, you never heard from Sosa again.
I say yes, yes it's cheating but roids aren't going to turn a scrub into a superstar. Also do you basically ignore an entire era of players in the 90s/2000s who put up incredible numbers and deny them all from the HOF? I don't think you can.
U aware misc brah? But I agree. Taking roids isnt going to perfect a persons swing, just make him stronger. Still A LOT of skill involved regardless of performance enhancing drugs.
Well that's the problem with sports and life in general. The problem comes first before the rule/solution. So you have to be careful who gets penalized. Honestly, how that I give it more though, I'm not even sure who should get thrown under the bus for this one.
Well that's the thing, in reality, I doubt ANYONE is going to get thrown under the bus. This has been an issue for a LONG time and it still seems to be up in the air!
The ones that got caught got in trouble for it! Many more that havnt been found out.
That's exactly why someone needs to be thrown under. SOMEONE has to be made accountable somewhere along the line. Because if they don't, it'll be the same problem year in, year out.
any players that are using steroids should have bans imposed on them because I really think it is a downwards spiral for the sport and setting such a bad example for the youth aspiring to play pro.
I'm still on the fence about this, but last I heard, pot and beer generally make people worse baseball players. :D
Steroids were legal back then, just as spitballs were legal during (mostly) the dead-ball era, so if all steroid abusers before the modern-day PED regulations get elected, I will understand why.
Personally I have to say yes. I don't think it's fair to put an asterisk on a whole era. If most of the hitters were on steroids than weren't most of the pitchers aswell. Lets say you let in Barry Bonds, how do you not let in Sammy Sosa? Whatever they do they're going to have to be consistent throughout, let them all in or don't let any of them in.
