Does nohio play the victim?

[jonnysmomma]

Oh thats just WRONG lol

 

[cschelthoff]

Well sometimes.

And to whom should my therapist's bill be addressed?

 

[fords8]

And to whom should my therapist's bill be addressed?

Prolly the lil smiley guy in the vag.

 

[icoupon2]

You should read all the words someone posts. What I said was: It is not our place to judge whether or not someone is a Christian or whether or not their actions are "Christian-like". You want to judge someone (despite what the Bible says about that) so be it.

My point was, it is not our place to judge whether or not someone is or is not a Christian or whether or not their actions are "christian-like". My issue was related to when people say someone else "claims" to be a Christian thus inferring that they think that person just claims it but really isn't. THAT isn't for us to decide IMO.

And this is a large part of my problem with Christianity in a nutshell. The only God can judge me, so whatever I do is okay and someone calling me out on it is wrong because only God can judge.

I can berate the staff at my Jewel, God will forgive. I can treat others poorly and God will forgive. I don't have to try to be an example because only God can judge me. Maybe God will forgive you and is the only one that can judge you, but you certainly aren't leading people to him if that is your attitude.

I hate these threads, I have avoided this one because I agree with Felicia on the mental illness aspect of it. I am proud of what Liz has done, she has made progress. I don't think she plays the victim. I don't think it is calculated. I didn't agree with how she handled the dog situation. As far as that goes, the God can only judge me crowd has certainly been judgemental about that.

 

[eiramnoaj]

It's not your birthday, now is it, Joan?




As someone who has defended Liz (and others) more than once in the past, I have to say that I can see both sides... I refuse to go into our personal conversations, but I will say that I've had enough ..... if my own kids didn't appreciate if i kept going out of my way to defend them, then it would be time for some tough love/a grow up lesson for them also. I would not keep defending them if the lesson never got through. And with this, I am DONE!

signed,

aunt bea

nope out:

 

[georgie]

Dang y'all! This thang just kept on going! See what happens when I leave work?!

Didn't need to be all that folks! Me loves you all! Even Liz. As I have told her, it makes me sad the way she continues on like this and she is better than this.

Whether or not I agree with your position on this or other matters... You all are great. Stop the mud slinging... This was meant to be a simple yes or no to show Liz what she said she wasn't seeing.

I know... I will prolly get brow beat again for this too... That's ok.

 

[georgie]

And... It is Felicia's birfday tomorrow. So be nice!

 

[fords8]

Prolly the lil smiley guy in the vag.

:roll:

I don't remember asking how ANYONE voted.... never cared actually... ohhh well..... I've moved on ... shall we all??

 

[tooty]

thanks to eliciafay, clars, bennaloe, and mamabear for sharing your thoughts on your no. I was reading only yes responses so hearing the reasons behind your no's gives food for thought. thank you.

 

[sati769leigh]

I wanted to have more than one voting option ****

 

[skinnje1]

"Honestly, I am a little bit saddened by Barb's immaturity in this and the other thread. Usually she is one of the more mature members of the board. "

This is Liz quotes from another thread and this is what really upset me. When she starts picking on Barb Liz has gone overboard. Liz has asked for the criticism in the last week. Rather than accepting the well place advice of many board members she had the nerve to pick on Barb. Sorry just not acceptable. As I told Liz in my thread I am the mom of 19 year old triplets who are way more mature already than she is. Tough love is what Liz needs now rather than being babied. She needs to make mature decision. Just like when she asked how old she looked. I told my daughter for two years that parting her hair in the middle was not the best hairstyle. My daughter finally realized that and changed her hairstyle. We all told Liz the same thing. Tazz even posted pictures for her. Did Liz listen. Not sure. So why ask if you don't listen. Not surre what type of home support Liz has.