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Just can't make this stuff up....wwyd?

kmjlovesjesus said:
I would not sign her in. You did the right thing. What if she got hurt? THe parent can say they didn't sign the waiver--and who is responsible--when they find out that you signed the sheet?
If I knew the parent, I would have called and said--did you know you have to sign a waiver? My child thought I could do it for you, since I was there (not sure I would mention they called me to sign and you were home) and that you might want to go back and sign they can be there

I think you did the right thing, besides you also showed ds that someone else can not sign if you are not there--and reasons why.
Of course he was upset, that is normal, they all think they can talk us into doing things and he really wanted it--probably told the person, my Mom is easy going and will do it for you---and was upset to have mud on his face when you said NO--

I have seen it all the time where people drop off kids and expect to be able to partiicipate--once we were at Extreme Trampoline , and someone did not have their waiver--my child thought I would sign it--since the parent had dropped them off--but NO WAY--if they got hurt--the parent could say I didn't sign it--and we would be liable--NOT WORTH IT in my opinion!!
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DS was THRILLED out of his mind HAPPY to go on a field trip with his after school group to Extreme Trampoline. They got allll the way there with the parent permission slips (school's requirement) to find out they needed the actual PARENTS there to sign the waivers :pout:

Was a LONG SAD bus ride back to Waukegan.:pout::pout:
 
mrsmom said:
First off no.

When I drop DS13 off at the Y to go swimming, I wait until I see him get passed the desk which means all is good. When I drop him off at various schools for b-ball practice during the week, he has to go in and make sure his coach is there and the come back to the door and give me a thumbs up then I drive off. Last year I always went in with him to make sure but this is working fine so far. He doesn't have a phone so I need the actual thumbs up lol.
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Im with you mrsmom....my ds swims for zion dolphins and when i drop himoff for practice ill walk him in and make sure he makes it out of the locker room and into the pool b4 i go home....

and barb there's NO WAY will or consider signing for any child for any activities whatsoever.....it is not my responsibility that they have lazy **** parents or just plain dont give a **** of their kids safety....this makes my blood boils when i encounter parents like that....
 
as we live in a (highly) litigious society, I would do the same as Barb. First, it is fraud to sign someone else's name and on top of that give permission for someone else's child. Should something happen, you know your head will be on the chopping board.

I've been watching a lot of TV court dramas, over here, courts go by evidence and that is mostly documentation of anything/everything. I didn't even realize signing for one's spouse isn't legal (case of someone signing her spouse's paycheck to deposit @ the bank) till I heard it from JJ.
 
I am like Dragonfly, very loose with the sports group we are with. Never, ever with strays that I don't know their parents.

That said, welcome to teenaged boy puberty, Barb. All 3 of mine have been different, but at times each have been the sucker elected to call their parent to do something shady, and been disappointed that we as parents aren't shady. I have been hung up on in my day too.

Since a girl was involved, this is the perfect time to (if you have not already) start teaching your son about how to be respectful of females and also how to protect himself. This is going to come out wrong maybe but we have been very rough and blunt as parents with the boys about how society is now, and how difficult it is for us to guide them (the boys) to be respectful of girls and women and to be able to curb their own behavior even when the ridiculous temptations are there. IMHO from what I see very few girls these days or their parents have any respect for themselves or their girls, girls are outrageously dressed and behaved not to mention their filthy mouths and precocious sexuality (sorry, vent there). I know not ALL girls are this way, nor do all parents WANT their girls to be this way, but we live in the life we have and I do not want any of my sons in juvy or prison for date-raping someone, nor do I want them to grow up to be disrespectful assholes, no matter the social group they have to practice on as teens.

Boils down for us that it is SO HARD these days to teach your sons to be respectful of girls and women when by all outward signs, they have no respect for themselves. The media, fashion, our society. It's a difficult challenge!
 
I would have no problem signing in nieces/nephews. I would have no problem if the parent called and gave me permission to sign them in. I would not do it behind anyones back. I have girls so as far as signing in a boy I probably wouldn't do it. If this is a place that the mother frequents they might know her or know you and realize that you are not the parent. I know in some cases you can put an emergency contact down and if you are not that then I wouldn't think of signing them in.
 
If I could add my unwanted 2 cents, I would talk to him about not getting permission for things/signed by his friend's parents for himself either. I'm thinking if he thought it was OK for you to do it for them he may think it is OK for a friend's parent to sign something for him.
 
:lol: hell no. I know too many lawyers ever to be ok doing that.

Barb09 said:
My argument that I would be committing fraud that I think is potentially I could (though not likely) be arrested for ON CAMERA....didn't sway DS. He hung up on me.
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sounds like arguing with my MIL, in that it's completely pointless because his input doesn't matter in your decision. You know what's right and wrong, and your decision should stand on its own. At 14, his brain still isn't fully developed so it's unlikely he's going to be able to make the best decision every time (though he thinks differently). That's why he still needs you.

dragonfly said:
I'd be more pissed that your DS hung up on you. :lol:
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:shesaid:
 
Totally not the same thing, but it seemed fitting to share this here....a person walks into a school and signs out a child who isn't theirs and abducts her. (She was found at 4 a.m. in the morning by a passerby)

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...rs-screams-finds-missing-5-year-old-girl?lite

F the system, I'd be beating the **** out of the people in the office of the school who let some random person walk into the school and leave with my child no questions asked.
 
icoupon2 said:
Totally not the same thing, but it seemed fitting to share this here....a person walks into a school and signs out a child who isn't theirs and abducts her. (She was found at 4 a.m. in the morning by a passerby)

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...rs-screams-finds-missing-5-year-old-girl?lite

F the system, I'd be beating the **** out of the people in the office of the school who let some random person walk into the school and leave with my child no questions asked.
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As an aside to this comment, nobody at any of my kids schools until they went to high school has ever asked for my ID when I was signing a kid in, out, or giving them medication to put in their mouth and swallow.

I'm not the mom of any of them and I am quite sure the office people at both the elementary schools & the jr high have no idea those kids aren't mine.

Incidentally, nor have I ever had to produce identification at any doctor office or emergency room or dentist to obtain medical care for any of them. Over the course of 17 years for nephew, 8 for DHs kids.

This is totally one of those things where if you "put on a white coat and act like you're a doctor, then you're a doctor." (has been the subject of many zany TV show episodes) Crazy!
 
skincarekathy said:
As an aside to this comment, nobody at any of my kids schools until they went to high school has ever asked for my ID when I was signing a kid in, out, or giving them medication to put in their mouth and swallow.

I'm not the mom of any of them and I am quite sure the office people at both the elementary schools & the jr high have no idea those kids aren't mine.

Incidentally, nor have I ever had to produce identification at any doctor office or emergency room or dentist to obtain medical care for any of them. Over the course of 17 years for nephew, 8 for DHs kids.

This is totally one of those things where if you "put on a white coat and act like you're a doctor, then you're a doctor." (has been the subject of many zany TV show episodes) Crazy!
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Wow...that's messed up. At DD20 & DD18's (former) high school you can't even get into the building without having your drivers license scanned into a computer at the door, get a badge and you still have to show it again when you sign them out in the attendance office.
 
The high school requires ID.

Also, once DH had to show HIS ID to pick up Baby from Jr High. I guess if you are a woman, it's OK :dunce:

Was shocked the first time it happened, maybe the first several times. Then I incorporated it into the kids training that they may not leave with anyone but me or dad. We will NEVER EVER EVER send someone stray BESIDES Grandpa, and that is only in a DIRE emergency.

It's better now that they're older. Was disturbing at the elem school stage.
 
icoupon2 said:
Totally not the same thing, but it seemed fitting to share this here....a person walks into a school and signs out a child who isn't theirs and abducts her. (She was found at 4 a.m. in the morning by a passerby)

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...rs-screams-finds-missing-5-year-old-girl?lite

F the system, I'd be beating the **** out of the people in the office of the school who let some random person walk into the school and leave with my child no questions asked.
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And probably once a month I have somebody get all pissy with me because I won't release their toddler to them if I don't know they are on the pick up list. About a month age I was called a "stupid ****ing ****" by a Dad (in front of his 4 and almost 2 year old kids)

Only trying to keep the kids safe.
 
Yep, and we have tons of baby/daddy drama.

Nothing like an order of protection to confuse daycare...and then a week later usually the mom gets mad at us for holding up the order. We make her go back to court to reverse order before we will let Dad pick up.

Don't get me started about carseats :pms:
 
reporter20 said:
On a completely unrelated note, I thought the YMCA in Waukegan closed recently (??)
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The Y did. This was at the Fieldhouse. But Ernie went 2-3 times a week to the Y until they closed and she told me that was a frequent problem there. (parents dropping off and leaving and kids needing signing in).
 
My DS doesn't go much of anywhere unescorted by one of us. So, it is unlikely he will be in a position wanting another adult to sign him in anywhere.

But, he now knows that doesn't fly. And not to expect it.

Not sure if I should say or not....but her bf just opened the side door and let her in without anyone's permission.

Which makes one kid there with no sign in at all....or list of who is there in case of bizarre emergency.

<thankful my kid didn't do it>
 
At our HS, the parents don't even go inside the school to sign the kids out. It's all done over the phone & you pick them up in the parking lot. I'm sure THAT'S not hard to work around. :lol: Once my DD18 had a friend call her out...what was genius was that they made it look like the call was coming from our home number. The school called because the caller didn't sound "manly" enough to be someone's dad. :snort: I was so confused, though, because the school was saying my exH called her out and I couldn't imagine why he would do that ever, let alone without letting me know. Busted! I had them switch her detention from Thursday after school to Saturday morning to ruin her weekend plans. :snicker: Ahhhhh, the joys of stoopid teenagers. :)
 
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