Third world war soon

GamerPerfection said:
Ms Naiwen said:
GamerPerfection said:
Sorry but Wei Qi has nothing to do with practicing compassion and peace. The whole game is an adversarial game with the objective of surrounding more territory than your opponent. In the game you are trying to take as much of the territory (the board) as you can to beat your opponent. Sound like compassion and peace? I don't think so.
No, it's also teaching you how to keep your borders intact and how to govern your own people. You haven't seen a finished game, right?

I haven't played the game. But how is teaching you how to govern your own people anything to do with compassion and peace?

I fail to understand how it has anything to do with compassion and peace at all. The aim of the game is to beat the other opponent by obtaining and not losing any more territory on the board than your opponent. It's basically a battle to win the majority of space on the board is it not?

No, you have seen only one side's teachings, not seen how a Chinese person would explain it. It's about how to govern commoners and children happily and peacefully and give everyone of them a "happily ever after". Or it's teaching the ruler about how to administrate his or her Lands with compassion and treat them with love. "Wei" would mean to "take care of lives, protect love and be at peace" and even look after our foes or rivals, wishing them even "Peace of Mind, eternal life and love" after having done us wrong. This the closest proverb/saying in English I can come up with. It's teaching an Emperor how to build diplomatic relationships with others after an invasion and teaching them ways to "not to cross someone else's line or borders" or how to "make peace" after a war. "Shou"=to protect and to preserve life within our territory and lands in my native tongue, that's it's first use, and real meaning. How to explain it to you : to keep our walls intact and our children in, that's "Wei", or let's put it this way, to protect our limits, that's also a figurative verb. Or if you will/want it, tis telling how to "put out fires" 'round us and protect everybody in the lands.
 
Even if i'm perceiving it the way Westerners have taught me, aren't you just perceiving it the way Asia has taught you? Therefore what makes your beloief any better than mine?

All it is is a game where both sides are playing to win and beat the other. Nothing to do with peace.


Ms Naiwen said:
No, you have seen only one side's teachings, not seen how a Chinese person would explain it. It's about how to govern commoners and children happily and peacefully and give everyone of them a "happily ever after".
What a load of bull. You're moving pieces around a board, that in no way about governing commoners and children.

Ms Naiwen said:
Or it's teaching the ruler about how to administrate his or her Lands with compassion and treat them with love.
Again, a load of bull. Moving pieces around a board teaching you how to treat your land with love?


Sorry but you seem to have fallen for the Asian perception of it much more than I have the Western way because it is just a game, for one side to beat the other. Nothing about war, nothing about peace, it is just a game.

Don't tell me i'm perceiving it how Westerner's have taught me and make it sound like I am wrong when you are clearly just doing the same thing but from the Asian perspective.
 
How can you pretend to know what I know from my own culture, when I've heard it from my own ancestors. It's similar to "playing a Game of Bridge's". Read the rules in Chinese correctly, before being so close-minded. What is "in a person's mind" is represented on a board, so what's in a player's territory has to be preserved, that's another strategy, that you refuse to "see", because you're Westerners. I'll teach you why Tai Chi is used as a peace symbol, when black and white and light and dark are "reunited together or when the "Sun and Moon" are together, to "represent peace". How could you pretend you know more than the native speakers do when you're so "biased" against them in your own culture? Let go of any misconceptions and don't misinterpret "anything" and jump into conclusions, don't be fooled by "any" mediatic propaganda when you don't even speak their language. When will you learn that you also belong to a culture/societies, that "gave you ideas or planted impressions" about things, right? When you have heard it from another person's PoV? When will you see an learn, that's also a social/cultural bias? If you truly want to know what a person another culture means, don't even be fooled by Westerners' explanation of it, even that's a mediatic "propaganda". That's what everyone should do, another solution for "misinterpretation". You don't even speak their language, how can you know what they mean in their society? If you truly want to stop racism, learn it from a native/local speaker's PoV, you'll see the difference in Japanese too. No wonder why some Japanese are so angry at Americans, they even misunderstand their symbols. How can you pretend to know what they want to mean, when their symbol's meaning's even "translated" by Westerners? That's one way to stop racism radically, to hear it from a native speaker's mouth? For you're also socially/biased in your own culture/societies?

Let go of any misconceptions, even what you hear/ on TV and online. Even the idea of out/in is completely wrongly translated, even the symbol used to represent things are wrongly misinterpreted, even their heartfelt thanks. Hasn't USA also done it to Al-Kayda. If you really, truly do wish to speak racism, you need to hear it directly from a localinterpreter's/translator's mouth. Haven't you learnt from your own preconceived ideas/errors about India, Israel, Palestine. For the concquer writes down history and uses his own imagination to retrace societal behaviour? What you think is evil for you in their civilization, "might/could" not be for them? I'm not being close-minded at all, I'm being a historian, pointing/showing you out another side of it. I've seen why both sides can never understand each other, and believe me, you are mistaken. Why are you so close-minded? Did you hear yourself, calling it "bull" and "crap" because it's not what your society has told you it is? How can you learn any languages this way then? Even a man/woman was or would mean something else in ancient Chinese.

Would=intention= I wish. The sentence is also completely read upside down, and from left to right. In Latin, it's read from right to left, no? Why can't you see, you've even misunderstood their Tai Chi symbol=Tian Xia Tai Ping, which would mean when dark/light or when the Sun and the Moon, get together for an eternal festival and are married in Heaven. Which is why the Tai Chi is used to represent a game of Wei Qi, meaning "wanting or wishing World Peace". Everything is symbolic in Chinese, even the Sun and the Moon's character's original meaning? Look at the Tai Chi symbol carefully in a mirror, do you see a Sun/Darkness contained in a World, in one Universe or as one? So it would mean : may Orient and Occident join in together to "have/govern" Heaven as a team.

Let me explain or tell you, in our minds, we see the Light/Dark completely upside down, which is why you think it's a Satanist cult or worshipping the Devil when we use it, when for us, it's a Peace symbol and we're worshipping nothing, just describing light/dark in our mind. You're calling it "bc" =, because you're refusing even point-blank to read the characters correctly. Start by reading everything from left to right, you'll see why you have it wrong in Asia/Orient. See it, and feel it and read it their way first. Even the way Oriental people perceive creation is different from your Christian Bible's way of seeing it. No wonder why you can't agree with each other; even the Sun and Moon's geographical course/position is different from the West in our minds, keep these thoughts in mind. Right Jason, isn't it why they've even mistaken some Indian religion as devil worshipping/heathens when they're oding to their Sun Gods? You're living geographically on the right hemisphere, and them on them on the left hemisphere, that's why. If I've gone too far with my psychological deductions, forgive me. I've been living in Canada for 25 years and seen/read on both rhetorical sides, lol, even in French I can tell you right away what each characters mean in my head and sound like in my ears. I'm telling why Jewish and Arabic people aren't happy about the way you've translated things. Even a Native Ameridian's/First Nation thoughts, I can communicate with them even without them teaching me their language.
 
We all have our own believe and culture,eventhough believe and culture tries to work together still it is a different thing alltogether.Culture is a mans or societal way of living but when you talk of believe then you may be wrong to associate it with culture because in a society you may find some people with different believe in one culture.Culture may not be changed but someone can start believing in another thing and still maintaining their culture so let's see things like matured minds and understand with wisdom.
 
Let's stop it right here before it turns into a flame war. I've started it, so forgive me if I'm being too open-minded about "acculturation."
 
What I don't understand is how you go from making posts that don't make sense like these:

quite the shocker yeah oi or rip; rip or be at peace!
and
Yes indeed or quote; quote or in fact mmm; thats just me here or there eh?
to making a post like the one you just have. You go from making no sense to making something deep.

You are very hypocritical. You accuse me of being close-minded, thinking you know it all and that you know me yet you know nothing. You claim you've heard stuff from your own ancestors, did you hear it from them or is it what you've been told by your elders or you've read, because I doubt your ancestors personally told you this stuff, because well, they are ancestors and probably long gone.

Stop all this American crap because i'm not American, see you presume you know what I am yet you know nothing.

You are saying i'm close-minded and biased, yet you are claiming a lot of negative things about Westerners and Western society.
 
So, are we "born-biased" or are we "raised-biased in a society?" That's what I'd like to find out for my social essay and my conclusions for this.
 
Obviously no-one is "born-biased" because when we are born we don't know anything and don't "technically" think.
 
No one is "born biased" like I said your culture dertermines the kind of society you are from and your believe says the kind of character you will posess.
 
GamerPerfection said:
Obviously no-one is "born-biased" because when we are born we don't know anything and don't "technically" think.

So we will "become biased/acculturated" whatever at one point in our lives if one is living in one civilization/culture" for too long in my view, no? So we need to know whom started to discriminate whom first in a society, to know exactly where everything began and spiraled down? I'm sorry if I sounded anti-American lately, but can you think up a practical solution to stop people from "being racist" if they start behaving like children when it's talked about on the News? And when are we going to really free people from "societal racism"? I've seen people blowing it out of all proportions. Why most people do it?
 
Guys guys..if the replies are for the topic i appreciate it..but please don't take anything personal..Just debate and share your views..
 
You need to stop claiming nearly everything is racism. I wouldn't be surprised if WW3 started because too many people claim things are racisim just because they don't understand what it is in the first place. It's so easy for people to label something as racism.

The example you gave me Naiwen in PM is absolutely nothing to do with Racism yet you label it as such.
 
GamerPerfection said:
You need to stop claiming nearly everything is racism. I wouldn't be surprised if WW3 started because too many people claim things are racisim just because they don't understand what it is in the first place. It's so easy for people to label something as racism.

The example you gave me Naiwen in PM is absolutely nothing to do with Racism yet you label it as such.

Yeah, so we should try not jump into any conclusions before saying it is, no? But everyone would do the same no, to make it easier for them to get/understand? And that's what people shouldn't do or should stop doing. Do you think there should be proof/evidence of it before saying so? Is there a way to know for sure/certain that it is or it's not?
 
Ms Naiwen said:
GamerPerfection said:
You need to stop claiming nearly everything is racism. I wouldn't be surprised if WW3 started because too many people claim things are racisim just because they don't understand what it is in the first place. It's so easy for people to label something as racism.

The example you gave me Naiwen in PM is absolutely nothing to do with Racism yet you label it as such.

Yeah, so we should try not jump into any conclusions before saying it is, no? But everyone would do the same no, to make it easier for them to get/understand? And that's what people shouldn't do or should stop doing.
I never claim something is racisim when it is not. Maybe you should listen to your own advice because you clearly do label racism when it is not.
 
GamerPerfection said:
Ms Naiwen said:
GamerPerfection said:
You need to stop claiming nearly everything is racism. I wouldn't be surprised if WW3 started because too many people claim things are racisim just because they don't understand what it is in the first place. It's so easy for people to label something as racism.

The example you gave me Naiwen in PM is absolutely nothing to do with Racism yet you label it as such.

Yeah, so we should try not jump into any conclusions before saying it is, no? But everyone would do the same no, to make it easier for them to get/understand? And that's what people shouldn't do or should stop doing.
I never claim something is racisim when it is not. Maybe you should listen to your own advice because you clearly do label racism when it is not.
In science management, we need to make sure everything is real before making an observation and even prove it, should this apply to human relationships too or no?
 
GamerPerfection said:
I'll resume this conversation when you make some sense.

In other words, in science, we need to make sure/prove everything we see before us is 100% real and facts/truths before making statements about things. Should this be done when dealing with human relationships then?
 
This has nothing to do with science.

You deal with human relationships the best way you can. There is no set way of dealing with such relationships as nothing in this world is unique or that simple.
 
GamerPerfection said:
This has nothing to do with science.

You deal with human relationships the best way you can. There is no set way of dealing with such relationships as nothing in this world is unique or that simple.

So, there's no "magical potion/perfect solution for anything in life", am I right?
 
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