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uh you should really get that folder viewing problem fixed
Well, if you have a quick look at the source code, the entire content is wrapped inside <center> </center> tags. I really wonder what the page designer was thinking, he gives it an XHTML 1.0 Transitional doctype and uses tables stuck with old, deprecated tags like he was using HTML 3.2!! So, actually, IE is doing wrong. And even "more actually", IE isn't. There simply is no <center> tag at all in XHTML.monsieurjohn said:the particular one i've noticed is my school's student web site...
http://hereandnow.northwestern.edu
open in IE and then opera - everything is left-aligned in IE and centered in opera. that's obviously no big deal, but it makes me wonder whenever i'm using opera if the page is displaying as intended or not
Go to Preferences and configure Opera not to cache pages. Geez.monsieurjohn said:when i go to "new posts" and then view one of them and then go back (with the back button), in IE the page is updated with which ones i've visited. opera still shows them as new
i also visit a private asp-based forum and it doesn't update the forum listing after i post in a thread, it continues to show the thread as it was before i posted. in fact, when i go back to that page after a few hours away it tends to pull from the cache instead of asking me to log in again, still has the unupdated forum listings, etc
IE does certainly not "clearly work better". IE has barely no features at all, surfing the web is so much more comfortable with Opera. IE is also extremely slow, especially when rendering tables. You are now telling that you don't want to use Opera because your friend is too stupid to even have a look in the Preferences section or in the Help section to easily find a solution to his problem, but instead just immediately giving a "crap stamp" to the browser due to his very low intelligence level.monsieurjohn said:since my friend wrote that one i'm willing to stick to IE for it, since it clearly works better. but i wish opera would behave more like IE for alien soup and for the site linked above, if only just to put my mind at ease
Pages that look good only in IE generally have really crappy coding.monsieurjohn said:i meant "clearly works better" for that site
i'll try turning the cache off though
It's true, Opera does not support z-indexes on iframes. Looks like it treats iframes as windows elements. If you wish to get an improvement to the issue, please contact the Opera staff at www.opera.com.monsieurjohn said:as i said (i think), it's a private forum site, so in short no. but that's not exactly the point. the drop-down menus on alien soup also don't display correctly... they fall behind the google ads and one of the ones in the very top right breaks apart. in a site designed with aesthetics very much in mind, that's an unacceptable deviation from the designer's intended vision
IMHO.
so in summary, i bounce back and forth between opera and IE. i prefer opera for casual surfing but i always feel like pages *might* not display right, and there are a few sites i have to use IE for. and with that i think i'm done posting in this thread... yeah.
Justin Case said:But could you please do a favour and ask this guy if he has ever heard about standards?
aaaaahhhhhhhDiesel said:Let's break the situation down, and take a typical user.
This user wants to view 10 web sites. Two sites don't necessarily adhere to standards. 8 of the sites look fine in Opera, but the two that don't adhere to standards look a little off. All of the sites render in IE "according to the designer's vision".
If I'm a user who wants to see what the designer intended, I do one of two things at this point:
1) View the site in IE.
2) Write the developers of Opera and wait for them to update the program.
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