What I heard

KNS.. one of my friends brought up a couple good questions about the voucher stuff.. what happens if there's no pvt school within X amount of miles of some households? how they gonna take advantage of the system.. Also.. some/most pvt schools are cathloic.. thus forcing children to attend/perform certain cathloic rituals.. how would say a hindu/muslum family deal w/ this?
 
School choice is not for every school -- local property taxes pay for the majority of public schools is less urban areas, and thus, those schools are generally in good shape. Vouchers pertain to the inner citites wherein public schools are often very very corrupt; what you see happeneing too often, is that the more money pumped in to those schools, the more administrative positions pop up, and the higher the 5 obsolete Vice-principals' salaries get. In these areas, there are often many schools - as well, magnet and charter schools are a MAJOR part of this -- anyone can start up a charter school if they so desire. School choice is called such, because parents can send their children to the school of their choice. Currently, I see the public education system is the biggest monopoly in this nation -- public schools have little incentive to better themselves, because they run no risk of losing their benefits. If you insert a little competition into the inner city school systems, being that no school wants to lose money, you bet they're going to try harder than ever before to get their act together, thus benefitting the student body's education quality.

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En fuego, bebe.

<font color="#000000">[Edited by KNSinatra on November 13, 2000 (edited 1 time)]</font>
 
this plan sounds fine at places w/ high pop density.. but i'm currently out in rural indiana.. the general quality of their schools are just as bad as the ones I tutored at in LA. Getting quality teachers out here is hard cuz no one wants to live in a town of only 2000 people. I think if the voucher plan ever comes into existance.. we'll be seeing a huge bias which people around here don't see it as fair..

(btw.. in my humble and insignificant opinion doubt that the proposal will even get through congresss & privatization of social security sounds scary so many things could go wrong, yikes!...)
 
I don't think taking funds away from schools is going to be a good thing. It's going to lead to increased stress on schools and will hurt education.

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From the Word Association thread.
Me: Splat.
Mth: PsychoticIckyThing
Me: Genius
Mth: ::snort::
 
"privitization" of Social security is a scare tactic used by the other party. Bush's plan calls for 2% -- only 2%, and it's purely optitonal. And it doesnt necessarily mean privitizing it -- you can take that 2% and: put in in a bank, and let it collect interest, invest in government bonds...very very very safe and non-loss-potential options! If something isnt done to Social Security soon though, there will be nothing left in the system in a few years, given population increases, and longevity rising.... This is a VERY needed change.

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En fuego, bebe.
 
if Bush is such a decent human being, how come he wants to pull the peacekeepers from Kosovo? Now anyone who is more concerned with human lives than money would keep the peacekeepers there.

because it's none of our damned business. We should not get involved unless it directly relates to us!

And this crap about once an alcoholic always one is utter bull****. Once you're an alcoholic, you're always recovering, taking one day at a time. It doesn't mean you'll be an alcoholic forever, it just means you're taking every day for the rest of your life one day at a time, so as not to fall back into alcoholism.

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because it's none of our damned business. We should not get involved unless it directly relates to us!

Sorry, I can't agree with that. What's happening over there is EXACTLY like what was happening in Germany and Europe before and during WWII.
Any person that can sit idly and let that happen again when we, as a nation, have the power to prevent it, has no sense of humanity or compassion. To say that we should not get involved ignores everything we were supposed to have learned from the Holocaust.
Even worse, for a leader (or candidate) of a nation with the ability and power of the United States to take that position is disgusting.
After what we did in Iraq, where we had Kuwaiti oil interests to protect, to then suggest that we turn our backs on the Kosovars (because they don't hold monetary interests for this nation), sickens me to my very core.

Make no mistake... the reason the Kosovo issue is an issue is because the situation holds no financial gain for the US. Our mission in Iraq was, by no means, one of humanitarian substance. We were there to protect our oil. In Kosovo, this country has the power to save an entire race of people, but we hesitate because our leaders say we have no business being there, when in fact, the reason they don't act is because they don't feel there are any national interests to protect.


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DD, I couldn't have said it better myself.
However, I'd have to agree with liltaz's second paragraph..."once an alcoholic always an alcoholic" is garbage.

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From the Word Association thread.
Me: Splat.
Mth: PsychoticIckyThing
Me: Genius
Mth: ::snort::
 
I'm not an alcoholic, and the only alcoholic I know isn't trying to recover, so I won't comment on that part.
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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
I don't think we should *just* be sending peacekeepers. I think we should be doing more, as should many other nations.


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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
Exactly!
It'd be nice if more countries accepted international aid as an accepted duty, rather than as something they're forced into.

When East Timor got it's independence, and peacekeepers were sent in, it was Australia leading the way. Now with the militia cleared and the military threat subsided, it's Australian aid organisations leading the way to rebuilding the country. Australians had to take a tax increase for the peacekeeping mission. Was there howls of protest coming from all over the nation? Nope. We saw it as something that needed to be done to help a neighbouring nation in need.

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From the Word Association thread.
Me: Splat.
Mth: PsychoticIckyThing
Me: Genius
Mth: ::snort::
 
Originally posted by Diesel Dan:
Sorry, I can't agree with that. What's happening over there is EXACTLY like what was happening in Germany and Europe before and during WWII.


then why *just* send peacekeepers?



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