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We got the upgrade yesterday and so far so good. We've been told by a few people that it's supposed to be the most stable Windows yet. I like it.

It seems like all the programs that work with Windows 9x work just fine with it too. We had no hardware and no software problems when we upgraded.

What do you guys know about it and did we make a good decision?

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
The most stable Windows yet?!?
Whoever told you that hasn't used NT or 2000.

As for making the right decision, if it's working and you're happy with it, then it was the right decision.

It's really just an interim until MS finally decides to stop supporting legacy hardware and software and forces everyone to move to an NT (of variant of) based OS. NT is much more robust, stable, and secure. It's only area of lacking is user-friendliness. It's just as easy to use as any of the 9x versions, but has much more stringent hardware requirements.

Will a lot of people balk when MS makes that decision? Sure. Those same people are still using 3.1 or 95.
For those that are willing to endure the headaches of upgrading and learning to use an OS that's slightly different, it will just be another new experience.


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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
I think it's pretty good. It's got one thing that helps us out a lot - a self-repairing kind of dealio so that if we install something that screws it up or anything...so far so good. I like all the new games it has on it tooo hehehe

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
From my limited understand, 2000 is more for business, whereas ME is for home...as I've said, I like my ME hehe

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
ME is more stable than the previous 9x's.. which i'm guessing is kinda what the guy said to litaz...

there have been certain problems w/ ME.. mainly driver.. sometimes the 98 drivers conflict w/ something.. but nothing major.. it seems like ME is just a service pack of 98.. maybe 98third edition?
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I have no need to switch to Windows MOI! If I do any kind of OS change, it will be to Win2K. From what I have read and heard, it is even better than NT 4.0, but still not as quick as 9x/ME in games. However, I go for the stability and security, ANY DAY! I use NT 4.0 at work, and this thing RARELY crashes.

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Does driving a car from Saturn make me an alien?
 
It could be...I haven't used 98 that much. I've been on 95 and NT.

I haven't had any driver problems, in fact, I didn't have to get any updates for any of my hardware or programs or anything...everything immediately ran beautifully on it.

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
Originally posted by liltaz:
From my limited understand, 2000 is more for business, whereas ME is for home...
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liltaz - Victim of MS Propoganda

Don't let this happen to your children!
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2000 is indeed aimed at businesses, in comparison to 9x/ME, but it's also aimed at power users.
The reason NT never caught on in the home was it's restrictive HCL (Hardware Compatibility List) and lack of gaming support.
Now, with 2000, the HCL is open to a lot more kinds of hardware, and it finally has decent gaming support with DirectX 7. So, it's now possible for power users to get the stability of NT, the security of NT, and finally the gaming ability of 9x in the same OS. Before, it was a trade-off: when you wanted to do real work... NT4, and when you wanted to play games, dual-boot into 9x.

Mind you, 2000 is NOT for the average home user, who just wants to boot up, check email, and play games.
But for those power users who need added security features, added stability, SMP support, and still want to play games, they can have everything in one.


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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
Talking to other people, though, I might think about ME. It depends, I guess. Anyway, I'm thinking more along the lines of a LINUX distro for my 486.

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Does driving a car from Saturn make me an alien?
 
liltaz> The purpose of my post was to illustrate that Win2k isn't just for businesses. All around, it's capable of much more than the 9x/ME product line FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.
Businesses are not the only ones who need it.

I am a home user. I use Win2k, because I need the added security and stability.
I like the fact that when IE crashes, it doesn't bring down the entire system. I like the fact that no one can access my files if I leave my machine alone. I like the fact that I can control who has access to my machine, my network, my network shares, and even individual files if I so choose.

If you don't need any of these features, you don't need Win2k.

If you're having problems with NT at work, it's because of one of two things:
a) the people who are administering and installing the OS don't know what they're doing.
b) the users don't know what they're doing.

NT is much more complex than any of the 9x/ME products. For inexperienced users, that complexity can be a nightmare.
Put Linux in front of a non-Unix user, and they'll tell you that they think it sucks because they do what they want. So, Linux gets a reputation among a small group of users because they don't want to learn something new that is capable of more than what they're used to.
Does Linux actually suck because these people don't know how to use it? Of course not. If you know how to use it, Linux is an incredibly powerful and flexible operating system. Certainly, more powerful than anything MS has yet to put out.

The point is that your opinion may be that it sucks, but that's only because it's not suited to your needs.


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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
and I'm not a power user. I'm a regular ole home user. I boot up, check mail, download from napster, check up on soup, log off, put the thing to sleep and do it all over again the next day. Nothing big or powerful. Not now anyway.

I've actually had MANY less problesm with ME at home than I do with NT at work...NT sucks if you ask me. All we have around here are problems.

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
Don't feel bad, liltaz.
I write a tech column for an email newsletter for a book publisher. Without consulting me, they published an article on Windows ME, recommending it and praising all of its new features.
Less than a week later, they had to publish a retraction of their recommendation, due to a proliferation of emails complaining that people followed their advice, and now some of their programs no longer work, or their system won't work.

Had they consulted me, I would've mentioned things like older DOS programs choke when you try to run them in WinME, or the fact that popular utilities like Norton Utilities and Norton System Works don't work with WinME unless you have the newest retail version, etc.

Now, I'm writing for a publisher that's completely tarnished their image. Doesn't exactly put me on the best side of the fence, and it makes me look bad because of my affiliation with them, even though I had absolutely no input whatsoever on that column.

The moral: You're not alone in your troubles, and this is what sometimes happens when you're acting as the beta tester for an operating system.
Unfortunately, this seems to be happening much more with Microsoft, where a retail package is actually a beta test in disguise.
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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
Actually, now I'm having more and more and more and more probs with WinME. Think I"m going to go back to Win95 for the time being...freezing up a lot, going into safe mode...nothing's going quite right...ugh...

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
Thanks, Dan...wish now I could take the damned thing back.

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers
 
Nah, just hold onto it until Service Pack 1 comes out.


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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
well that's what I'll be doing within the next days or so...getting win98SE installed...poop on WinME

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"No man can be condemed for owning a dog.
As long as he has a dog, he has a friend;
and the poorer he gets, the better friend he has."

- Will Rogers


Loyalty and love are the best things of all, and surely the most lasting. -- My Dog Skip
 
Or WinME SE comes out... *grumble*
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That's why I installed 98 SE....just that I heard a lot more praise from this OS than ME or 98 regular.

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Does driving a car from Saturn make me an alien?
 
Taz,

Check this one out. Saw it on http://www.gotapex.com :

Windows ME Kills DSL, News at 11. (Posted by lpmiller at 11:48AM)
This doesn't affect me, in fact WinMoi boosted my DSL speed, but I always upgrade my drivers. ZDNet is reporting that many folks are killing their DSL lines when they upgrade to Moi - their modem drivers just don't work
with it. The article cites BellSouth and Verizon, though I understand it to be country wide, not baby bell specific. I use Qwest, but since I always use the most current drivers, I'm not sure that means anything. ZDNET
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2643039,00.html
 
I do believe that would only apply to internal DSL modems, since externals hook up via NIC and would only require a NIC driver, which shouldn't cause problems in ME.
Also, I believe USB DSL modems wouldn't cause such a problem either, since they should adhere to the USB spec and should work with the drivers provided.

I find it interesting that people jump to blame the operating system for such problems, when clearly it's the manufacturer's lack of driver support for said operating system that's at fault.
If the manufacturer of the internal DSL modem would've provided ME drivers in a timely fashion, no one would be complaining. I don't know anyone who uses the Windows default driver for any device, mainly because they suck.

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spidergoolash: "heh, a cup of diesel dan - mwahhha"
me: "heh, a cup of me is like a cup of heaven!"
 
Well how do I found out what it needs to run in and how to change it if needed? Meaning, lets say it should run at CAS3, like yours, but is running at CAS2, how do I change that?



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Trumpets rule!
Games rule!
I rule!
 
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