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right now, private parties are $125.00 per hour at bestWhat do you get Paradigm, for a private party?
at a bar, $150.00 for 5 hours for a karaoke night, and that is pushing it.
right now, private parties are $125.00 per hour at bestWhat do you get Paradigm, for a private party?
Um, not so far..... Maybe I've just been lucky....?
apparently we are ALL doing this wrong if Proformance is getting $575 for a friday night. so share with the class Pro, how are you doing that?
In my like I have had many seemingly unsumountable obsticles(elephants to eat) And have found "ignoring the elephant in the room " to be the quitters method and not very effective....so I take them out "one bite at a time"
Pro,
Forget i exist
This is not about me. ( per se)
I am not the issue,
Reply to the issues or have the thread deleted.
Come on man!!!
Oh, and again Pro,
You assume WAY, WAY too much!
If you take a closer look at the elephant in your room you will find that it is not something you can eat. Your goal requires that you control the behavior of other people - and that is a power you will never have.
I can assit in controlling the behavior of the elephants...my teeth may not be as big and sharp as thoose of the manus
but my bites still hurt (and BTW I have eatten elephant when I was in india and it was tough but very tasty)
Yes, Sc and others can continue to sue people as a result of their behavior but, ultimately you have no control over the behavior itself.
SC and the other manus suing are using the much bigger teeth and anyone with a half a brain will change there own behaviour when thry realize what is going to happen if they dont...even elephants
I remind you that U.S. copyright law has been around for over a century, in Eurpoe much longer. It is a widely understood concept regularly enforced by law suit. Most notably with very public actions by the RIAA and major record labels. Yet, the infringing behaviors continue don't they?
more teeth needed and our grassroots effort will work
I suggest you refrain from trying to eat this elephant and instead usher him out of the room so that you can focus on making the best use of your own behavior. Right now, it appears that it is the elephant that is controlling you.
sorry too many elephants to usher .....that I could be injured or stepped on by any of the elephants I am fighting against. I am helping not only myself but all of those that are being hurt by there own elephants as well.
we discuss rate increases with each of our venues once each year....we have not received a single increase for over 2 years due to the piracy issues in our area and have lost 5 long term venues to lower cost admitted pirates. Do we allow this NO but it does happen...bars are hurting and looking to save $$ where possible and many clients have followed us to diffrent venues after having seen the pirate shows that may list 3 xs our songs but shi**y shows. Competeing with $50 shows listing over 200,000 songs is not easy. That is why I will happily distribute packets for venues and report any suspected or admitted pirate shows in any manner they request. My Sound Choice jacket makes me very visable and I am not trying to hide what I am doing in any way shape or form.
No I do not beleive the only way to get an increase is to get more songs....It is my opinion the only way we will get an increase is to hang the pirates from the yard arm....we find it EXTREMLEY hard to compete with 50.00 shows....and can not afford to drop our prices that low....the real honest reason for my pirate hunting persona exsposed:errpill::errpill:
thoose here that have admitted piracy directly to me dont have enough money to pay even the low settlment financing rates without raising costs...and I am insuring the ones that even consider it know CB and Stellar are coming in right behind SC with their hands out as well.:yespillut of the over 50 in my area I know to be pirates(admitted to me personally) 4 or 5 my survive...and I bet a dollar to a donut they wont be doing $50.00 shows:yespill:
Let's ask this another way:
1) Do you believe that the ONLY two reasons that you've not had an increase in 2 years is because pirates charge LESS and pirates have more songs?
2) Do you believe that you'd get an increase if you simply had more songs?
it's not just having more songs, but that the bar can get karaoke, and a lot of owners still see it as "just karaoke", for a lot less. i dont know what Athena charges, but in my case if they come to my bar and say "i can offer your customers the largest collection of songs in the valley do it for 1/3 the price he does" then i go to the owner looking for a raise, what are the odds of me getting it?
it's not just having more songs, but that the bar can get karaoke, and a lot of owners still see it as "just karaoke", for a lot less. i dont know what Athena charges, but in my case if they come to my bar and say "i can offer your customers the largest collection of songs in the valley do it for 1/3 the price he does" then i go to the owner looking for a raise, what are the odds of me getting it?
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