Using icoupon's example, could you call it a sin if someone was having a relationship outside of marriage because they were "in love?"
See, I think people who commit adultery deserve to be branded a potana (and whatever the male equivalent for that is) for their lifetime and shunned. I don't think cheating should be allowed anywhere.
Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion...
1. OK, so children born out of wedlock aren't sins.
2. Having SEX (without marriage) that made the children is a sin.
3. What if you have IVF? Then you aren't sexing. No sin???
4. OK, lying is a sin. So, when people lie to their kids about Santa on what they consider one of the most religious holidays of the year are they sinning on Christmas?
Things I learned from this trainwreck and where my mind went....
any answers?
I am not sure telling a lie is a sin.
Can we pick and choose?
BFF 5 minutes before she walks down the aisle "Do you LOVE my dress?"
I think it is atrocious.....IMO, it is a bigger sin to crush her with the truth.
Is there an official list of sins? Other than the 10 commandments?
People seem to literally **** on themselves if the trainwrecks are removed around here.
There is no official list other than the 10 commandments really. All the other stuff comes through translations that may/likely not be correct (the Bible especially) and do not have the same weight. The anti-gay thing is one of the things that many think the translators got wrong in the bible.
IMHO I do not understand people who quote "their preferred translation" of the bible since we know the above is an inherent issue. I agree Barb, the bigger "sin" would be to crush her with the truth. If you wish to read or memorize something in the bible to remind you or your child of something you know to be the moral way to treat people fine, but to be a moral person memorizing/reading the bible is irrelevant. But try and tell that to certain extremes of the Baptists or some other sects (there are extremes in all even Catholics) etc you will get an earful.
As Catholics we were taught that the stories in the bible are just that, as interpreted by those there at the time at their level of understanding. For example, the story of the beginning of the world should NOT be taken literally, it is a story. For example, evolution is compatible with the important part, that a divine entity God created and set the universe in motion including possibly the evolutionary process etc.
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Bob, the first reading, second reading, and gospel at Mass are from the Bible. Also, the responsorial hymn is from the Bible. Catholics don't often memorize or quote the Bible, but it is still a central part of our faith.
Also, in Catholcism there are two types of sins: venial and mortal. The Catechism of the Catholic Church goes into detail about each type and sin in general.
And if you didn't stop going to segregated places, you hated black people? If you didn't boycott companies that supported racial inequality, you were a hateful racist?
Non-support of boycotts to abolish apartheid never meant support for. Are you saying it does? Can you further explain that logic? Because that is where you completely loose me at
Chick Fil A uses their profits to support "Pray The Gay Away" nonsense. If I eat their chicken sandwiches for lunch I may as well right a check to those causes directly because I am KNOWINGLY helping to contribute.
I was reading somewhere that they released their 2011 tax documents and they no longer contribute to those causes. when I am not buried at work and can search for it, I will look for it.
So if they quit donating to those groups back then, I can appreciate change and can go eat a nice chicken sandwich (because **** they make a good chicken sandwich that I have eaten in a number of years since finding out who they were giving to)
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