possumdog said:Ahhh, you fell into my trap, nicely.
Seriously, thanks. But I think I could get more credibility with Rick if I just drank more and better liquour.
possumdog said:Well, calling on my 30 years experience as a Registered Veterinary Technician, I would have to say that dogs don't care if it is a bird or a bee or if they are a bird or a bee, if you get my drift.
mn mule said:so many dj's using harddrive based karaoke here that they are killing the profit. i can easily name 6 or 7 companies that have started for anywhere from 100 plus drinks to 150 and it seems to be getting worse.
JoeChartreuse said:1) This should have been a point of suit for any innocent KJ. Why wasn't it?
2) This is a HUGE issue. All of you "report them to SC" folks should be very aware that Kurt will happily use your help AGAINST YOU if he feels like it.
I don't know how it is in all regions, but trust me, if a "helper's" name is outed- like Kurt has already done- here, it would create a very dangerous situation. He has shown, at least in regard to "reporters", that he can't be trusted to respect your privacy, even though you think he's on your side. Be VERY careful.
Proformance said:As a point of law, you can further condition any settlement offered to you, just as you can make a counter-claim in any suit brought against you. Settlements are offers which beg a counter-offer and negotiation until conditions acceptable to both sides can be reached.
At the absolute minimum, any KJ engaged in a suit by SC should condition any settlement that includes an audit with just compensation for your time, expense, and aggravation.
Furthermore, you should also be making appropriate counter-claims with any reply you make to the suit.
You must make ALL your counter-claims at the same time you answer the suit. You will not be allowed to add anything later that was not included with your answer.
You should not allow yourself to be held at the discretion of the plaintiff. This is an adversarial procedure - be a worthy adversary. You owe yourself nothing less.
Proformance said:The cold truth is that there is nothing you or SC or anyone else can do about it. It is the very nature of karaoke's appeal that creates these low paying conditions.
The people who seek out karaoke shows do so because they want to be singing "stars" and this is their outlet. Getting paid for their singing talent is either not of concern to them or not possible.
Likewise, there are people who also want to be "stars" in the form of karaoke hosts and getting paid also isn't their motivation. So, in the typical small independent bar/lounge market you are competeing with much the same kind of personality that makes up your singing clientelle.
To a certain extent the same problem plagues DJs. However, there are certain places both commercial and private where only a paid professional DJ will qualify - and therefore that work is safe from the touch of wannabees.
Karaoke on the other hand has fewer such elite positions. To secure a professional KJ job at a meaningful prevailing talent wage you would need to be employed or contracted with a major theme park, cruise line, casino, or other entertainment complex whose reputation and broad based marketing dictates a top brand of talent.
The odds of finding a such a wannabee class KJ at a Disney theme park or hotel for example, is slim to none. It will be someone under contract to Disney who has real singing or presentation talent.
possumdog said:Well, this just sucks the joy and magic out of things, doesn't it? And before I get a cold hard reality lecture, what we are selling as hosts is fun, escape, joy and magic.
SoftJock Rick said:Turn them all in -- they are commie ****s! In fact, a whole bunch of Russian commie ****s got busted the other day. I don't know any of them, but I bet they tried to sing... :sqerr:
Fusion said:The day that money is worth more than the magic...
I quit.
Thunder said:Uh Rob,
Has anyone ever gone over the birds and bees with you?
jokerswild said:Why is there something I should know????????? :sqlaugh:
SoftJock Rick said:Sorry, thought this was a business, and you folks were out to make a profit -- didn't realize it had to do with illusions... :sqconfused: :sqrolleyes:
Fusion said:Thats a bit of a narrow outlook Rick.
Can one not do a thing because they like it.
Even my day job I really enjoy.
SoftJock Rick said:IMHO, if yer just doing something for "passion", "fun", or "magic", then it's simply a hobby. Why should someone doing a hobby, worry about pirates, rates of pay, bookings, etc...?
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