What is wrong with people?
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http://www.catholicscomehome.org/answers-scripture.php
http://www.catholicscomehome.org/answers-about-confession.php
http://www.chicagopriest.org/faqs.htm
The first two are going to be more conservative links from Rockford type dioceses. The last is from ArchChicago's website.
http://www.catholicscomehome.org/answers-scripture.php
http://www.catholicscomehome.org/answers-about-confession.php
http://www.chicagopriest.org/faqs.htm
The first two are going to be more conservative links from Rockford type dioceses. The last is from ArchChicago's website.
Well at least we will all be able to coupon with each other in the afterlife or would Hell consist of having to pay retail....
....wait are we moving into hell
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thanks for answering my question, I already corrected my use of the terms and specifically the trinity as a requirement, but even by your definition there is some lacking similarity in those basics as there is no belief in a cross or the physical resurrection of his body, and even the list you provided above includes all denominations that believe in the trinity, so although the term was incorrect, I still think the basics are not the same since those are the things that those denominations believe are core foundations of their religion. I would love to hear more though if you know more/have more to share about JW's as I think we all would.
I'm Pentecostal, have been my whole life. I come from a loooong line of Pentecostal preachers....my BFF is a Jehovah's Witness and I would strongly (but respectfully) disagree that our respective religions are that similar in principal or core beliefs.
Right where I am now, many of my neighbors, classmates and colleagues are Muslims (60% of the populations are Muslims). I would like to think God fearing Muslims are going to find favor with God rather than Christians in name.:hides::hides:
That said, nobody can tell who is or who isn't, nobody is in the position to judge except God himself.
That said, nobody can tell who is or who isn't, nobody is in the position to judge except God himself.
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JW's do believe that Christ was nailed to & hung from what most call a cross or crucifix - they however refer to it as a stake.
In the JW Bible, Peter's speech to Israel (Acts 2) very clearly says God resurrected him - referencing Jesus the Nazarene/man they had known & killed.
Salvation & eternal life can only be achieved by a personal acceptance of Christ's blood shed for your sins.
No they don't believe in the "trinity" - a three in one entity. They do believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son & the Holy Spirit as separate entities. I was raised in a hardcore straight laced hell fire & brimstone spewing Baptist church (I'm not Baptist anymore) & I'm not sure I believe in an all-in-one trinity.
The first time I questioned it was as a very young child when trying to figure out why Jesus would pray to his Father which would actually be praying to himself under the three in one theory, how the Father could turn away from (forsake) his dying Son if they were one in the same, and why/how Christ could be sitting at his own right hand.
In most issues the JW's beliefs are not as far-fetched from the mainstream as some think. Like other churches they simply have their own interpretations of what the Bible tells us. I had to take religion classes in college. I chose to study the variations in the protestant faiths and spent a lot of time questioning my professors/priests. The Bible based religions have one thing in common - they all think THEY'RE THE ONE right & true religion and, IMHO, they're all wrong at some level because man is doing the interpretation.
One area where there is a major difference is death, or more specifically the afterlife, but it is also where the Catholics & Protestants split as well:
>>>>> Until Christ returns, JW's believe that dead is dead. The soul goes nowhere as it is sleeping. Believers & true innocents (babies & such that never reached an age of understanding) will be resurrected when the time comes.
>>>>> Catholics have purgatory & limbo, transitional locations between heaven & hell that the people left behind can pray your soul out of ... I've never been clear on how you land in one of those places, though, or how someone else's prayers are supposed to save you from eternal damnation.
>>>>> Most Protestant religions believe that your soul is instantly transported to heaven or hell when you die and those left behind have no say/control over that outcome.
In the JW Bible, Peter's speech to Israel (Acts 2) very clearly says God resurrected him - referencing Jesus the Nazarene/man they had known & killed.
Salvation & eternal life can only be achieved by a personal acceptance of Christ's blood shed for your sins.
No they don't believe in the "trinity" - a three in one entity. They do believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son & the Holy Spirit as separate entities. I was raised in a hardcore straight laced hell fire & brimstone spewing Baptist church (I'm not Baptist anymore) & I'm not sure I believe in an all-in-one trinity.
The first time I questioned it was as a very young child when trying to figure out why Jesus would pray to his Father which would actually be praying to himself under the three in one theory, how the Father could turn away from (forsake) his dying Son if they were one in the same, and why/how Christ could be sitting at his own right hand.
In most issues the JW's beliefs are not as far-fetched from the mainstream as some think. Like other churches they simply have their own interpretations of what the Bible tells us. I had to take religion classes in college. I chose to study the variations in the protestant faiths and spent a lot of time questioning my professors/priests. The Bible based religions have one thing in common - they all think THEY'RE THE ONE right & true religion and, IMHO, they're all wrong at some level because man is doing the interpretation.
One area where there is a major difference is death, or more specifically the afterlife, but it is also where the Catholics & Protestants split as well:
>>>>> Until Christ returns, JW's believe that dead is dead. The soul goes nowhere as it is sleeping. Believers & true innocents (babies & such that never reached an age of understanding) will be resurrected when the time comes.
>>>>> Catholics have purgatory & limbo, transitional locations between heaven & hell that the people left behind can pray your soul out of ... I've never been clear on how you land in one of those places, though, or how someone else's prayers are supposed to save you from eternal damnation.
>>>>> Most Protestant religions believe that your soul is instantly transported to heaven or hell when you die and those left behind have no say/control over that outcome.
Where does Reincarnation fit into this? I was raised a Catholic and my kids are being raised Catholic. I have some serious doubts about everything and can't say for sure what I believe in anymore.
Reincarnation is not accepted in any Christian-based religion as a religious tenet. It is associated with the many Indian (continent) religions and Buddhism.
Now, Christianity has developed so many nuanced branches that there may be one or more Christian-based churches or groups that now believe in reincarnation, and there are "lost bible chapter" Christian sects that probably teach it, but it is not generally accepted in Christianity because the idea of reincarnation could be said to raise disturbing thoughts about Christ being risen from the dead (though not the same as reincarnation but close enough for many laypeople to consider it the same). Basically most of Christianity defines "reincarnation" as being "possessed" by either angelic or demonic spirits.
That doesn't even make any sense to me now that I read it. It sounded right in my head!
Now, Christianity has developed so many nuanced branches that there may be one or more Christian-based churches or groups that now believe in reincarnation, and there are "lost bible chapter" Christian sects that probably teach it, but it is not generally accepted in Christianity because the idea of reincarnation could be said to raise disturbing thoughts about Christ being risen from the dead (though not the same as reincarnation but close enough for many laypeople to consider it the same). Basically most of Christianity defines "reincarnation" as being "possessed" by either angelic or demonic spirits.
That doesn't even make any sense to me now that I read it. It sounded right in my head!
I didn't know Lutherans have catechism, thought it was just Catholic. So who wants to explain what catechism is to me? :lol:
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but if a priest can act as God, shouldn't they be sinless, which is not possible? Can you confess to God and not to the priest and still be ok?
:lol: If I have to compete with Abraham, Issac, the apostles, Mary Magdeline and I assume Mary the mother of Jesus automatically gets a spot right? Wow, and then King David..oh and the thiefs at the cross, I take it the majority of the ones at the sermon on the mount get a ticket...this is really not looking good
Mrs. M.
Lutherans were the first to break away from The Catholic church so they do have some of the format in teachings are the same. But they are considered Protestants, I believe.
Reincarnation by definition is "soul recycled into new earthly body"
As in, back on Earth, not in Heaven.
As in, back on Earth, not in Heaven.
This number supports God's promise to The Jews and His covenant with them. 12,000 people from each of the 12 tribes of Israel makes up that number. This can all be found in the Christian Bible in The Old Testament. And The Old Testament is the Torah which is what the Jewish people read from.
Christians and Jews have similar beliefs. We both believe that they are God's chosen people (they were created to preach the Gospel to the world). But we differ because we believe in The New Testament as well which supports that The Savior (Jesus Christ), did indeed come on earth to die and be resurrected and save all from their sins. God will still keep Him promise to The Jewish people and The Bible teaches us that many Jews (and ANYONE), who wants to be saved can and will accept Jesus Christ as their Savior too.
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What's wrong with that? The birthday child & his/her parents sound like very loving tolerant human beings who have solid values, namely that their child spending his special day with a good friend was more important than a bunch of decorative frills.
BTW, do you know that not too long ago, most American birthday parties consisted of a cake, candles, friends/family, party games, & sometimes, but not always, gifts. Party stores selling ton of disposable decorative crap hadn't been invented. Parties were just as fun & much less expensive.
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mind read much? she never said it was wrong or right...
why does he humor him? i always wonder this. my hubby would love to humor the mormons when they visit, and i would rather they be able to move on to the next door and perhaps find someone really interested. drives me crazy. sometimes i think hubs just likes to hone his biblical skills. maybe?
