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Well yea I know that sucks.
smo1704 said:However, I was not attempting to justify the rioters behavior. My criticism was directed toward the French method of problem solving, which seems to consist of retreating from every problem they encounter, internal or external (often while simultaneously declaring their moral superiority for doing so).
Ahhh, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding.GoingNova said:
I understand that, and that was covered under the "Agreed" part of my response. The rest was really "I agree with your assessment, let me add this..."
smo1704 said:
Ahhh, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
spunkey monkey said:but that is because you are a rational "normal" person and not a polatition, people who are in politics are just making the rich richer and the poor poorer, republican democrats they are all the same although the democrats seem to have more fun
It could also be argued that the Americans had the New Orleans disaster coming. Should we have denied them Aid? Hell, there was an Urban SAR team from Vancouver B.C. in N.O. days before any concerted rescue effort.I agree let the French burn. They had it comming.
Cuba and Venezuela offered aid to the U.S. during the Katrina crisis. Did they do it to spite the U.S., I doubt it. You offer aid because you want to help, not because you have a political agenda. God knows that the U.S. has been flinging plenty of crap the way of those two countries for years now, yet they offered help. Why? Becuase they wanted to save people's lives. It should be that simple. The U.S. government never even responded to those offers.There is no chance in hell they would take our aid if we offered it. We offer it because it would insult them deeply. Its like rubbing thier noses in the crap they have been throwing for years now.
I should have written identity made manifest. The Statue of Liberty is that identity made manifest. So, just because the French may or may not like you anymore, that makes their very generous gift null and void?We also gave them gift's. Four gift's to be exact; the gift of freedom to rule themselves twice and we gave them a ton of money to rebuild their pitifully small country twice. Not to mention we gave them a steak in Berlin after WWII and I think that after WWI some of Germany's colonies went to the French. Also I'm not 100% sure by what "Identity Manifest" but if it is what I think it means all I got to say is that we all have that gift. We have the option to use it or not. Also the Statue of Liberty was given to us at a different time when the French liked us.
Forgive me if I missed anything, but how is this relevant to the U.S. offering aid to France? As I understand the analogy, the French must have done something horrible to you. What would that be?If your neighbor deliberately burned your house to the ground, would you be the first in line with the bucket brigade to put out the flames if his home was afire? I don't think I would be. But that's me! Harm my family and friends - never expect me to come to your aid because it will never happen.
Black Mage said:Forgive me if I missed anything, but how is this relevant to the U.S. offering aid to France? As I understand the analogy, the French must have done something horrible to you. What would that be?
spunkey monkey said:acctually i was refering to bill clinton
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