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I believe in live & let live, except for those who hate people who are different from themselves. I have no time for bigots.

As far as spectacles go, there are fools everywhere. There was a guy in my hs class, he was a nice, quiet guy. Even many years later, the image and reputation of his mom is burned in my brain, unlike any parent of any friend or classmate. His family lived very comfortably, could afford to shop anywhere, even in Boston's most expensive designer shops. The guy in my class & his younger sister dressed nicely themselves. They were totally embarrassed by their mom. The mother always dressed like a cheap tramp, everything was skin tight and cut down practically to her navel. She got huge breast implants, dressed like a porn star, cleavage popping out everywhere. Insanely tacky. I haven't seen her in years but I doubt she's toned down. She made Peg Bundy look like a cloistered nun.
 
The parade I saw last year was just that, a parade. People flying rainbow streamers, dancing happily, and singing village people songs. LOL There were no blatant kissing or anything really offensive. There were straight people wearing "Straight but not narrow" t-shirts as well.

It was fine by me, and I didn't have to shield my daughter against any of it.




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The parade I saw last year was just that, a parade. People flying rainbow streamers, dancing happily, and singing village people songs. LOL There were no blatant kissing or anything really offensive. There were straight people wearing "Straight but not narrow" t-shirts as well.

It was fine by me, and I didn't have to shield my daughter against any of it.




M



That's right you are in a different area than many.......I for one live in the Chicagoland area and I would NEVER allow my daughter to attend Chicago's parade! And the sidelines are always worse than the actual parade!

If that is what you saw then I can see why it doesn't bother you in the slightest! :lol:
 
My brother is gay & it has taken us alot of time to get used to this. He was married & has 2 kids (now 20 & 17).He was abusive to my sil & is the same in his current relationship.He is just as miserable now as he was when he was married to her. I guess being gay didn't make his life the bowl of cherries he thought it would.He doesn't act 'gay' & you'd never know he was from the way he acts.I did make it clear to him that i didn't want any embarassing behaviour around my dd.She was 7 when he split from his wife.We have sort of a don't ask-don't tell relationship. His bf is invited to all family events & i get along with him extremely well.I actually like him better than my brother.I'm not anti-gay but i don't want to see anyone making out in front of me.

I'm sick of all so called groups getting extra priviliges.Jesse Jackson(such a hyprocite) calling on the Rainbow coalition etc. to get out the black vote.If someone running for elected office said"Get out the white vote". They'd be crucified in the media. We don't need Gay Pride day or any other special days for any groups.(imo).
 
I am not gay...but man would I like a wife. I want someone to cook, clean, do my laundry and listen about my day! I want to wake up and find the coffee started. I want to casually mention in the morning how nice it would be to have ABC for dinner then find it on the table that night.

I don't want to sleep with her....just think having a wife beats the heck outta having a husband.

Barb,
My husband does all of that for me plus works a 60+ hour work week. I was just saying to a long time childhood friend today at lunch, how lucky I am to have married such a great guy. Plus, I do get to sleep with him.
 
I am not gay...but man would I like a wife. I want someone to cook, clean, do my laundry and listen about my day! I want to wake up and find the coffee started. I want to casually mention in the morning how nice it would be to have ABC for dinner then find it on the table that night.

I don't want to sleep with her....just think having a wife beats the heck outta having a husband.



:shesaid:
 
I'm sick of all so called groups getting extra priviliges.Jesse Jackson(such a hyprocite) calling on the Rainbow coalition etc. to get out the black vote.If someone running for elected office said"Get out the white vote". They'd be crucified in the media. We don't need Gay Pride day or any other special days for any groups.(imo).

It seems to me you still have some unresolved issues that are just simmering in the background. Your post is seasoned with anger.

The reason why we have these parades is because we are not there yet. We don't have equality across the board. These parades are there to remind us of that. Of course some of the more bitter people can take it too far (on either side). But without having these parades it would almost be like just accepting life for what it is rather than trying to make it better.

Eventually it will equal out for these groups. Their parades may still march on, but instead of promoting power they should promote awareness of the history. So we do not repeat these crimes of ignorance.



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I am not gay...but man would I like a wife. I want someone to cook, clean, do my laundry and listen about my day! I want to wake up and find the coffee started. I want to casually mention in the morning how nice it would be to have ABC for dinner then find it on the table that night.

I don't want to sleep with her....just think having a wife beats the heck outta having a husband.
Don't have to be gay, become a polygamist :giggles:
 
It seems to me you still have some unresolved issues that are just simmering in the background. Your post is seasoned with anger.

The reason why we have these parades is because we are not there yet. We don't have equality across the board. These parades are there to remind us of that. Of course some of the more bitter people can take it too far (on either side). But without having these parades it would almost be like just accepting life for what it is rather than trying to make it better.

Eventually it will equal out for these groups. Their parades may still march on, but instead of promoting power they should promote awareness of the history. So we do not repeat these crimes of ignorance.


M
What he said.

The gay teen living a closeted life in Podunk, USA shouldn't have to feel all alone and hopeless. They shouldn't be afraid of telling their friends and especially not their families. They shouldn't be afraid of being kicked out of the family home. They shouldn't be afraid of rejection by their parents.

But too many are. Too many kids kill themselves because their families reject them, or they are convinced that their families would.


It should not happen.
 
It seems to me you still have some unresolved issues that are just simmering in the background. Your post is seasoned with anger.

The reason why we have these parades is because we are not there yet. We don't have equality across the board. These parades are there to remind us of that. Of course some of the more bitter people can take it too far (on either side). But without having these parades it would almost be like just accepting life for what it is rather than trying to make it better.

You trying to tell us something? :giggles:
Eventually it will equal out for these groups. Their parades may still march on, but instead of promoting power they should promote awareness of the history. So we do not repeat these crimes of ignorance.

Ummmm I'm not so sure I need to know the personal histories on this one :giggles:
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Ok and now that I've added my witty sense of humor :lol:

Do you happen to have pictures of the parades held by women back in the day when we fought for equal rights? Did the slaves hold parades? If so I'd love to see pics....history is interesting to a certain extent....

Though I am still confused how dressing in drag, being extremely sexually explicit on the streets where children are, and making huge obnoxious spectacles help one to obtain equal rights....I kind of think it just makes one look like a jackass as they make a mockery of themselves and others they claim to "represent". And again I have NO PROBLEMS with "gay people".
 
What he said.

The gay teen living a closeted life in Podunk, USA shouldn't have to feel all alone and hopeless. They shouldn't be afraid of telling their friends and especially not their families. They shouldn't be afraid of being kicked out of the family home. They shouldn't be afraid of rejection by their parents.

But too many are. Too many kids kill themselves because their families reject them, or they are convinced that their families would.


It should not happen.


Agreed!!!!! They should not feel this way at all. But MAYBE if the families saw what it is really like to be in a homosexual relationship and saw that it was much like a heterosexual relationship instead of seeing only these "over the top, have to make a huge spectacle and mockery of the whole gay population" then perhaps families would be more willing to accept this lifestyle.........I don't know how else to put this but often times those holding the parades and such make themselves look like "freaks" to the general public and that is NOT what the homosexual population is! They are just like everyone else except they like the same sex!!!!!
 
I am not gay...but man would I like a wife. I want someone to cook, clean, do my laundry and listen about my day! I want to wake up and find the coffee started. I want to casually mention in the morning how nice it would be to have ABC for dinner then find it on the table that night.

I don't want to sleep with her....just think having a wife beats the heck outta having a husband.


I want a wife too!!:giggles:

My best friend always say, who needs a husband, I need a wife! She is in her 40s,not lesbian, never marry nor have a serious relationship.
 
Ok and now that I've added my witty sense of humor :lol:

Do you happen to have pictures of the parades held by women back in the day when we fought for equal rights? Did the slaves hold parades? If so I'd love to see pics....history is interesting to a certain extent....

Though I am still confused how dressing in drag, being extremely sexually explicit on the streets where children are, and making huge obnoxious spectacles help one to obtain equal rights....I kind of think it just makes one look like a jackass as they make a mockery of themselves and others they claim to "represent". And again I have NO PROBLEMS with "gay people".

I meant we as Americans. lol Geese.

About slaves holding parades. That would guarantee that they would be lynched.

About women, they did have bra burning and other forms of making a point. Women still have it rough by the way. Women don't get paid equally compared to men.

Your last paragraph is about how certain **** react. Not all of them do such things. Some might have been through worse forms of prejudices and feel that was an appropriate way of handling things. I don't agree. You do have to factor in that children may be watching so being sexually explicit isn't the answer. Although dressing in drag as long as its nothing too racy, is ok with me.



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This thread is a prime example of one where I want to express my opinions, but am afraid of what others will say to me. I want to stand up for my beliefs, but I have avoidant personality disorder and don't take criticism well. I will say that I have liked the gay people that I have known (including my uncle), and that I try to leave judgement up to God. Also, we are all guilty of sin, including myself, of course. I've told you guys about some of that.
 
It seems to me you still have some unresolved issues that are just simmering in the background. Your post is seasoned with anger.

The reason why we have these parades is because we are not there yet. We don't have equality across the board. These parades are there to remind us of that. Of course some of the more bitter people can take it too far (on either side). But without having these parades it would almost be like just accepting life for what it is rather than trying to make it better.

Eventually it will equal out for these groups. Their parades may still march on, but instead of promoting power they should promote awareness of the history. So we do not repeat these crimes of ignorance.



M

Thanks for today's psychobabble. I like you Mike, but it really annoys the crap out of me when folks who are so supportive of freedom of pretty much everything feel it's ok to personally criticize others opinions. It's like opinions are ok, as long as they agree with mine.

I've kept out of the controversial part of this thread up until now because I'm just not up for another argument, but I'm just curious as to how far your "equal" plan goes. How many "special interest" groups need to feel equal before we can all sing kumbaya? Do we need a fat people parade, or how about a polygamist parade? What about a parade for the poor fools who follow the rules, work their butts off and are still struggling? Don't they deserve a parade too? How far does this go?
 
This thread is a prime example of one where I want to express my opinions, but am afraid of what others will say to me. I want to stand up for my beliefs, but I have avoidant personality disorder and don't take criticism well. I will say that I have liked the gay people that I have known (including my uncle), and that I try to leave judgement up to God. Also, we are all guilty of sin, including myself, of course. I've told you guys about some of that.

You should never feel afraid of expressing your opinions. They are just that, opinions. Don't take it to heart if someone disagrees with you though either. People are different and may never agree with you. Your disorder does explain a lot. I wish I would have known that sooner. I'm glad you believe god is the one to judge. People tend to think even though the bible may say something. I don't think they are the ones that need to judge. Let the almighty judge.





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This thread is a prime example of one where I want to express my opinions, but am afraid of what others will say to me. I want to stand up for my beliefs, but I have avoidant personality disorder and don't take criticism well. I will say that I have liked the gay people that I have known (including my uncle), and that I try to leave judgement up to God. Also, we are all guilty of sin, including myself, of course. I've told you guys about some of that.

Well then use this thread as a chance to break out of your shell. If someone attacks your opinion, which I wouldn't be surprised if they did - that happens alot, just tell them to go to hell. Liz, I think this would be a good opportunity for you to open up a bit and see that it's not that hard.

Come on, I've spoken out here plenty of times and taken positions that aren't always the popular one, but I'm still here (and like it here an awful lot!)
 
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