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From Dave Meltzer, WrestlingObserver.com -

In a story reported on earlier today by Pro Wrestling Insider, WWE is indeed bringing back the ECW brand name for merchandising purposes as well as some form of weekly television and house shows.

The decision appears to have been finalized in the past week as several former stars were offered three-year contracts.

Paul Heyman will be in charge of the brand. It is believed this will be a mix of both former ECW wrestlers and new WWE developmental wrestlers.

It is expected this will lead to some significant changes in the WWE television product as well. The company is not looking to add a third day of television taping. It would likely be handled similar to the Superastros deal in the late 90s, with weekly matches taped before either the Raw or Smackdown tapings.


http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=16088


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Well, I'll be...
 
Huh.

This is a surprise to me I thought they'd be happy with just doing the One Night Stand ppvs and the dvds. I'm not sure how the fans will take to it though because if it is just taped stuff done along with Raw and Smackdown, there will probably be a bunch of ****ing and moaning from the ECW "faithful".

But I will be interested to see who they give Heyman and what he is allowed to do with the brand.
 
:stern:

I love typing out a response and then having the site crap out...



Anywho, agreed on the tapings point. WWE and ECW crowds are very different, and the size of WWE buildings alone would take away from the ECW atmosphere. If they could search out some smaller venues at their old stomping grounds (eh? eh?), that'd be the best way to go.

It'll also be nice to see some guys that seemed like they'd flounder forever get a shot. I've gotta believe that Punk will get his start there, and the Smackdown cruiserweights, for example, will finally have something to do again.

It'll be real interesting to see how everything plays out. WWE B.S. about Raw and Smackdown being different promotions aside, this'll be pretty revolutionary. I don't ever remember one company trying to run two entirely different promotions.
 
I'm not sure they'll really treat it as different promotions though. I think it'll be like Heat or Velocity from the sounds of it. :/

But we'll see. I'm sure most of the talk on the net will be harsh from the start so they'll have to make it different to make it work.
 
Well, it'll be different enough. New stars, Heyman writing, different PPVs, different brand name. The house show detail is interesting too. I wonder if that means they'll have their own house shows or if they'll have their own portions of WWE house shows.

Another interesting detail will be the announcing. I wonder if this spells the return of JR to Raw while Joey Styles gets permanent ECW duty. So much to consider...:popcorn:
 
Yeah it will be interesting to see how seperate they will make things. Like are they going to take the guys for the new ECW roster completely off of the Raw and Smackdown shows? And give them their own show sets for their shows?

Yep lots of questions at this point.
 
Ah.

Last night [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPWv_6A7VtE"]Joey Styles[/video] fired the first "shot" in the rebirthing war for ECW. And it was a great ****ing promo.

:)
 
News on the talent roster for this "new" ECW venture.

PWInsider.com said:
Dave Scherer is the first on the IWC to publish a comprehensive list of full-time talent, part-time talent, and others expected to be involved with the "new" ECW. This includes those already signed, those WWE has spoken with, and some that are already on the RAW, SD, OVW or DSW rosters that are expected to be a part of ECW's future.

Bookers: Paul Heyman, Tommy Dreamer, possibly Smackdown's Ed Koskey part time

Announcers: Joey Styles
Ring Announcer: Steven DeAngelis

Confirmed talent so far:
Rob Van Dam
The Sandman
Tommy Dreamer
Sabu
Al Snow
Axl Rotten
Balls Mahoney
Francine
Jazz
C. W. Anderson
Danny Doring
The FBI:Guido and Mamaluke

Part Time Talent:
Terry Funk
Masato Tanaka
Yoshihiro Tajiri
Mikey Whipwreck
Joel Gertner
Mick Foley

Possible Signings/Call ups:
CM Punk
Roadkill
Kid Kash
Super Crazy
Psycosis
Justin Credible
Lance Storm
Stevie Richards
Johnny Swinger
Nova/Simon Dean

Additionally, TNA's Rhino is only under contract with the rival promotion until this summer, so there's always a chance that he or others may come in at some point. Among the ECW alumni currently involved with WWE but not mentioned by Scherer include Tazz, Steve Austin, Lita, Joey Mercury, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Mick Foley, Psicosis and Rey Mysterio, although many of them will likely be involved in the ECW One Night Stand PPV, but not necessarily with the ECW brand after the event.
 
Some vids from last year's ECW One Night Stand PPV

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eG5krBe9Vc[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WlU5euWfro[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6p5UkYd_nc[/video]
 
WWE® BRINGS ECW® TO SCI FI CHANNEL

WWE.com said:
SCI FI Channel announced that World Wrestling Entertainment®, the producer of the No. 1 weekly basic cable TV series, “Monday Night RAW “on USA Network, will debut a summer series on Tuesday, June 13, at 10 p.m. ET/PT. ECW (Extreme Championship Wrestling®) will be an alternative brand of wrestling suited to fit the SCI FI Channel’s commitment to fuel the imagination.

"Research tells us that there's a healthy appetite for wrestling among SCI FI viewers," said Bonnie Hammer, President, USA and SCI FI Channel. "With ECW, we're able to deliver to those fans unique action with a twist that's perfect for SCI FI."

“ECW on SCI FI will push the boundaries of sports entertainment in new and unexpected ways,†said Vince McMahon, Chairman of World Wrestling Entertainment.

SCI FI Channel is a television network where "what if" is what's on. SCI FI fuels the imagination of viewers with original series and events, blockbuster movies and classic science fiction and fantasy programming, as well as a dynamic Web site (www.scifi.com) and magazine. Launched in 1992, and currently in 85 million homes, SCI FI Channel is a network of NBC Universal, one of the world's leading media and entertainment companies.


Still shocked that the Sci-Fi network wanted this on the schedule as it doesn't fit. But it could end up being one of their highest rated shows.
 
I need help here. One side of me says to order One Night Stand, the other side says why bother. What should I do?
 
Snazz said:
I need help here. One side of me says to order One Night Stand, the other side says why bother. What should I do?


That is a good question, and Geoff could probably give you a better sales job than I could.

For me the most interesting things about the show are two things:

1) They are going to be launching the new ECW tv show right out of this PPV. So while last years event was about giving the fans and performers an "event" this one will be more about getting them interested and bought into the new ECW on the Sci-Fi network. So I think a lot of the older ECW stuff is going to be taking somewhat of a backseat to what we can be looking forward to with the new roster.

2) What should be the Main Event, John Cena vs Rob Van Dam could be electric. The ECW fans are being told they should hate and boo Cena and they'll buy that hook line and sinker. Add to that the fact that RVD is beloved by those same fans and you'll have a carzy vibe for that match. I kind of think it will be like a Duke home basketball game with RVD playing the role of the Blue Devils. The reaction to the finish of that match will be huge, if RVD beats Cena for the WWE title the roof will blow off the place, if Cena gets the win they will probably pelt the ring with garbage. The match might not be a classic but the drama and crowd make it THE match to see at any event this summer period.


Here are the matches that have been announced so far:

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam
World Champion Rey Mysterio vs. Sabu
Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton
Mick Foley & Edge vs. Terry Funk & Tommy Dreamer
Tazz vs. Jerry Lawler
Masato Tanaka vs. Balls Mahoney
FBI vs. Tajiri & Super Crazy
 
Up until last night, I probably would have told you to save your money and just watch the network shows, but watching Head to Head really got me amped up for the show.

If you were an ECW fan back in the day or are just curious as to what all the fuss is about, I'd say buy the show. "Hardcore" fans hate WWE and its fan and the McMahons and all the rest of it, but so much more than they did during the Invasion period, WWE "gets it" a little more now. Whether people like it or not, WWE has as much respect as anyone for what ECW meant to the wrestling world, and as proven by their network TV deal, they've invested a lot into making the new ECW a success. The PPV will be very WWE-y, yes, and in essence, the entire show is just WWE vs. ECW, but this show will truly be the beginning of ECW's resurrection.

The undercard for the show might actually be worth the ordering price alone. Tanaka and Balls will do their damndest to best the insane match Tanaka and Mike Awesome had last year, and if given time, the FBI vs. Tajiri and Super Crazy could be fantastic. In the latter match, keep your eye on Tony Mamaluke. The guy is well-known for taking some of the sickest bumps you'll ever see, and on a PPV of this magnitude, I expect him to do something mortifying.

Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton is a match that irks me a bit, and I never thought I'd say that about a Kurt Angle match, but I just find it to be out of place. It belongs on a Smackdown PPV undercard. I know Kurt's the new face of ECW and all that, but I just don't see him that way yet. It still feels like he's going to turn on ECW any day now, and his whole "Yeeahhhh!!1 ECW! Violence!! Yeahhh!!" shtick seems very forced. I'll be interested to see if the ECW faithful embrace him, but all that said, the match should be solid. Kurt gets everything he can out of his battered body, and Orton has something to prove after sitting in time out for the past 60 days, so I expect these guys to work extremely (eh? eh?) hard to impress the Hammerstein fans.

Personally, the "match" I'm looking most forward to is Tazz vs. Jerry Lawler. There's legit heat between these two guys, and I find Tazz's return to the ring to be the most underrated story of the year. This guy was a machine in ECW and came across as one of the most legit bad-asses in wrestling, so for him to step back in the ring after the precedent he set for himself for years is very significant. Lawler's history with ECW is well-known, so there'll be a lot of genuine emotion surrounding this match. I expect it to be brief, physical and bloody, and if the result is anything other than Lawler getting choked out, I'll be shocked.

Foley and Edge vs. Funk and Dreamer is a match that went from being a cute attraction match to a big f'n deal in one night, and it was all thanks to Mick Foley. His promo at Head to Head set the bar about as high as it can be raised for all four guys involved. Foley promised to put to shame everything he's ever done in his insane career, and for a guy with as much pride as he has to say something like that, I can't possibly fathom what he has in mind for Sunday. It's hard to watch Terry Funk nowadays, and Tommy Dreamer, though my guy, has never really been good for much besides bloodying himself up and performing a few entertaining hardcore spots. Add that Edge really screwed himself up during that backdrop spot last night, and you've gotta believe that it's going to be an uphill battle for these guys to put on a great match. But Foley's words are still resonating in my head, so I truly believe they're going to do something sadistically special in this match. Just goes to show you how invaluable good promo ability still is.

The two main events are very intriguing because of the ramifications of every possible result. In Mysterio vs. Sabu, you have the makings of a match that is a classic on paper but probably won't be everything people want it to be. Both guys are close to being shells of their former selves, and even their best effort will probably induce a few sighs from the ECW faithful. However, the result of the match is what to watch for. I fully expect one title to fall into ECW's possession by the end of the night, and WWE has shown that they're basically ashamed of having Rey Mysterio as their World Champion. They've squashed the guy at every turn and seem to have no intention of getting him over as a legitimate champion. Having him drop the title on this stage seems completely possible, but by the same token, I'm not sure that WWE believes enough in Sabu to have him be "the" guy in the new ECW. He's a guy that will always have his aura and has never needed a title to get over. I can see him being treated as tough, respectable roadblock for Mysterio to hurdle. They'll have the match, there'll be violence, there'll be nearfalls, the crowd will do everything they can to will Sabu to a win, but Mysterio will get the W in a fashion that forces the fans to begrudgingly give Rey his props.

Finally, Cena vs. RVD. For many people involved, it gets no bigger than this. RVD has been about nothing but ECW for the past year, and some could argue that he has never been about anything but ECW. He's never been shy about expressing his desire to return to the unleashed style he used to exhibit in ECW, and now is his opportunity to put up or shut up. He missed One Night Stand last year, and that ate him up. He's also lost a lot of the superstar credibility he had as a top ECW star by having mediocre matches with just about everyone in WWE. If Van Dam is worth anything anymore, he'll come through on Sunday in a big way. But that'll definitely be easier said than done because of who he'll be in there with. The most controversial champion in years, John Cena, is the man who'll make this match. Hardcore fans love RVD, but their love for him can not hold a candle to the clusterf*ck of emotions than Cena elicits from every crowd he performs in front of. The New York City fans will very likely put the Chicago WrestleMania crowd to shame, and that's saying something. I don't expect the match to be anything special from a technical standpoint, but because of the reactions that every sequence in the match will get from those insane Hammerstein fans, it should be a classic.

In the end, I think there's a lot more to be lost by an RVD loss than there is to be gained by a Cena win, so I'm going with RVD. He has to win to maintain any credibility with any fans, and as a promotion, ECW needs RVD to represent them extremely well against WWE's cash cow. If they want RVD to drop the title back to Cena down the road, that's fine, but at One Night Stand, Van Dam has to win. ECW needs to be taken seriously, and I believe the WWE understands that. Paul Heyman sure as hell understands that, and because he's gone as far as he has to resurrect the company, I believe Vince McMahon understands that, as well. RVD over Cena in one of the all-time moments for ECW fans.
 
I'm not so sure they are going to have RVD go over Cena. In fact I think we should all bet on it!

[video]http://www.thestompinggrounds.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20860[/video] :p

But the environment that will surround that match and the reaction to the finish might just be the thing that makes this ppv "must see" tv. And for me right now it is the only thing that is really pulling me towards paying to see the show.

I do want to see Taz choke out Lawler, and will be glad to see my olympic hero beat the crap out of Orton. But I have doubts about the other matches delivering at this point even with Foley's incredible promo.
 
Here is an interesting article someone was nice enough to send my way.

Thank you Vince; Heyman at it again
BY SCOTT FISHMAN, Miami Herald Writer

Promoter Paul Heyman insists Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) will re-emerge as a new breed unleashed on the pro wrestling scene.

ECW was a trend setter the first time around. WCW and WWE borrowed ideas and talent from ECW.

The new ECW, under the WWE checkbook, starts 8 p.m. [EST] Sunday, June 11 at the second One Night Stand pay-per-view and continues into the company's return to network television on the Sci-Fi Channel live at 10 p.m. [EST] Tuesday, June 13.

After last year's successful One Night Stand PPV at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City, Heyman was adamant about not making ECW return as a full-time brand under WWE.

Heyman turned his attention to one of WWE's feeder groups -- Ohio Valley Wrestling -- in Louisville, KY. Taking over for Jim Cornette, Heyman received rave reviews for rejuvenating the territory.

Coupling the never-say-never mentality of the wrestling business with other outside factors brought Heyman on board for the new ECW brand.

''It was going to happen with me or without me,'' said Heyman, who made relative unknown misfits into superstars and helped run a company which revolutionized the business throughout the 1990s until its bankruptcy in 2001.

``I figured I might as well be involved and have some influence on it. I still have the same concerns today as I did then, and I've addressed those concerns. I don't want it to be a nostalgia show, and it's not going to be a nostalgia show. On that aspect my concerns are assured.

``It can't be a nostalgia show because if it's a nostalgia show, it's doomed right off the bat. It's going to be a progressively thinking promotion. It's going to have the most contemporary music. It's going to have the most riveting and compelling characters. It's going to be able to reach out and create new stars and not have to rely on the guys that were hot five, six or seven years ago. With that in mind I'm very excited about it.''

more here
 
I kid you not.... the most brilliant piece of booking Heyman could do as soon as the show is re-launched is:

Somehow it it discoved that Wight is a long lost Dudley Cousin... They rename him "Big Slow Dudley" he adopts the Dudley look (Broken Glasses, Flannel shirt etc).... they bring in Spike.... Big Slow turns heel.... goes into a program against Spike "the Giant Killer".... (get it?)

I get to watch Spike get "spiked" into the 8th row of ringside every tuesday night for a few months....

**** ....I'll feel like I'm 15 yrs old again.

Kurt Angle appearently has tougher skin now than he did during his first venture into the ECW arena (the night of Sandman's "crucifiction") but McMahon dollars can toughen you up like that. Angle had no problem becoming Anti American and dissing the United States Armed Forces for Vince... but threatened to sue Heyman if his name was even mentioned on ECW television about 7 yrs ago.

I hope the first Angle, Kurt finds himself involved in somehow involves Jesus being being put in an Ankle lock! (and tapping).....(Hey if God can wrestle for WWE, I'm pretty sure they can get Jesus for ECW)

Oh... and I wanna see Francine and Beulah naked.

Those are my thoughts for today. :cool:
 
The head to head show has gotten me back into the ECW spirit (funny...I actually HATE the word "spirit" lately.... I wonder why that is?) And I've watched a few of my bootleg "women of ECW" videos over the past few days. I'ts amazing how many good looking chicks actually worked there over the yrs. Even Missy Hyatt was still somewhat attractive when she was there. I watched about 20 diffrent matches today featuring Dawn Marie vs Francine or Francine vs Tammy Sytch or some other combination of the three.... all pretty much the exact same match, just from different house shows.... almost everyone ended with Candido stripping down to a golden lame' thong. I have another video of all of the Douglas/Francine vs Dreamer/Beulah matches from the various houseshows but I've not found it yet. In the late 90s I think I was probably one of RF Video's best customers.

Anyway..... the point I'm getting around to is.... Jazz is without a doubt the ugliest chick ever to set foot in an ECW ring. I was actually afraid they were going to job Mickie James out to her wednesday night and I was ****ing livid at the thought. I figured they'd want to give ECW at least one more win (after the RVD victory) and since the women's division is treated like a colony of Lepers in WWE.... I was pretty sure Mickie was going to get the honor of doing that job.

So.... no one likes my "Big Slow Dudly" angle? :/
 
I think Big Show Dudley would be funny. But from what I have heard the reason Paul is going ECW is pretty much exactly what he said in his promo on WWE.com about it. He was going to be made a "monster" again with no more silly stuff.

I'd think it was hilarious for them to have a new group of Dudleys without D-Von or Bubba though. With Heyman going out of his way to diss TNA every tim he's asked about them it'd be a nice way to give them the finger.
 
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