Thunder said:
Joe,
Let's try that again
OK I am going to ask you, what kind of investigation should Sound Choice conduct before filing?
Now don't skip over it detail what kind of investigation should be done!
1. How would you go about investigating the issues involved here?
2. Would you conduct interviews with the KJs?
3. Would you take statements from witnesses?
4. As the investigator would you go into a venue while the KJ was working and announce that you were there to watch and see if he was in violation?
Explain what you would do and the order in which you would do these things?
I will respond with a common sense breakdown of your investigative proceedure after you post it!:sqwink:
I've already answered that question, at least twice. And my strategy will work for quite awhile, and might even still work after the knowledge becomes widespread of what SC is doing.
Simply, ask the suspected pirate. As of now they all still brag about the size of their library. I met a KJ two weeks ago at the Mobile Beat convention in Vegas. Right on his biz card it states he has over 100,000 tracks.
He, BTW, has gotten drift of SC activities and is trying to legitimize his library. That's one instance, and the only instance I am aware of, of SC benefiting the industry by causing someone to purchase a volume of discs. And keep in mind that while his purchases are benefiting the "entire" community of retailers and manufacturers, his competitors, however, are unaffected. He still has the same number of shows that he had before. And he will decide what he wants to purchase, not SC!
Now my strategy:
Just approach the Kj casually, as a singer and ask reasonable, non-threatening questions
1. why don't you have a song book?
2. Golly, your book is huge, how many songs do you have?
3. Your song selection is fantastic and I appreciate that you have SC tracks. Lots of shows I've been to must have purchased their stuff on the cheap because some have virtually no SC (some pirates will proudly let you how what good businessmen they are and tell you that when they purchased their HD they made sure there was plenty of SC tracks included)
4. How long have you been KJ'ing?
5. Did you start off playing discs or have you always be digital?
6. Do you have other "rigs"/shows?
5. I was looking for a song and didn't find it in you book. Might you have it?
(picking something quite obscure to ask about)
6. go to their website. Some have their entire catalog available on line. Some promote how many tracks they have. One pirate I know has 4 rigs and advertises that all 4 have the same exact library!
Again, this is not rocket science. I have asked these very same questions from time to time just to get a sense of what the person might understand about pirating and whether they realized that they are a pirate?
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Thunder:
I don't know what it is that you believe that I expect you to agree with me on?
There are a bunch of issues that you don't care about and that's you prerogative.
I stated many things i questioned that you say are not a problem. So, that's the world as you see it!
And if you know the answer to any of the following questions I have posed, please enlighten us all
1. How does it benefit me when a pirate purchases discs from SC and he stays in business?
2. What agency does SC actually have regarding other manufacturers?
3. Is SC actually auditing all tracks on a HD including non-SC tracks?
4. Without said agency, what can SC do about a pirate who has non-SC tracks?
5. After settling with SC, what will a shrewd pirate do with the thousands of non-SC tracks that are on his HD?
6. What is the experience level and qualifications of those performing the audit?
7. If someone has any substantial number of pirated SC tracks why would they agree to an audit in the first place? Yet, one poster (Mr Cowles) claims he did just that. Why did he go through the audit? Why didn't he just say you got me!
8. If we are to take what Mr Cowles says at face value, he wasn't a complete pirate anyway! He had, from what he says, a much larger investment in karaoke discs than the average KJ! So, IMHO, there are more important "fish" to hook than Mr Cowles in the fight to eliminate piracy, perhaps he was targeted because SC believed that he was in a position to and would cooperate with the settlement offer? And he did to the tune of $13000!
9. Why should I be excited to know Mr Cowles is delighted with the deal that SC cut him?
10. What happens if SC finds one set of SC tracks that was ripped from a disc that is unavailable at the time of audit?
11. What happens during an audit if there is a substantial, or even small amount of missing sales receipts?
12. What about receipts on thermal paper that have faded and can no longer be read?
13. Why isn't SC putting pirates out of business rather than supporting them?