Man Guilty in Road Rage Dog Death

Originally posted by WaterB:
seems like you guys are arguing w/ pit just for the sake of arguing.. the only difference in the two stances.. as far as i can tell is the length of the sentance..

I would have to disagree with this quite adamantly. There are so many facets to this situation that have been raised within this discussion. Many of them concern basic principles, fundamentals, the concepts of "worth" and "value" concerning a living object in comparison to an inanimate one, examination of personal emotion and affection within a so-called "property" crime, debate regarding the existence or inexistence of superior human worth versus a continuum of intelligence amongst all species. And the list goes on. These are some very serious concerns with equally as serious implications -- hardly an issue with only "one difference" between the "two stances".

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Originally posted by Lysithea:
I don't know what the rules are where you come from, PIT, but around here if a dog was provoked, the dog's rights are protected fiercely

Origionally posted by PsychoticickyThing:
Only in America.
Who's saying he was provoked? I haven't heard that.

PIT> As far as your "only in America" comments, I must ask; where are you finding that it's ONLY in America? I agree that Australia may have different rules but I doubt America is the only place with laws about animal cruelty at least to this extent. As far as the provoking part, the man stuck his hand into the car where the dog decided it was his territory and may have felt the need to protect himself and his human. In the dog's eyes he was provoked. Because the man stuck his hand in there out of anger, I believe he did provoke the dog because it was obvious he wasn't intending on petting the cute little critter.

Hermanm> I don't think PIT was saying anything against America with that statement of "only in America". It seemed to be more a statement that it's not the same rules where he is.

General Statement> Everyone has a different opinion and that is welcome here. Just keep that in mind... I know this is a tough topic for everyone but I think this is important to think about. There are different rules in different countries and even states. Some states in America don't protect animals as strictly as others. Some countries also don't protect animals' rights as strictly as other counrties. NO ONE should be looked down upon just based on what their country's beliefs are. However, I do think this is a good debate on discussing how the animal cruelty is viewed by an individual.

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Hey...I am not wanting to open this argument back up, but I thought some people might be interested in hearing the outcome, since the guy was sentenced today.

SAN JOSE, Calif., July 13 — A man who tossed a fluffy little dog to its death in a bout of road rage last year was sentenced to the maximum Friday: three years behind bars.

ANDREW BURNETT, 27, was convicted last month of animal cruelty for throwing the bichon frise named Leo into oncoming traffic after a fender-bender with the dog’s owner.

The courtroom erupted in applause when Judge Kevin Murphy, who said Burnett’s release would pose a danger to the community, rejected a recommendation for probation. During the sentencing hearing, Burnett’s mother had asked for leniency, calling her son an animal lover.

Burnett never turned to look at Leo’s owner, Sara McBurnett of Incline Village, Nev., during the hearing.

“Words can never convey the depth of love I had for my dog Leo,” McBurnett testified Friday. “His clear intent was to terrorize me in the fastest and clearest way he could under the circumstances.”

McBurnett and other witnesses testified that after the minor traffic accident in February 2000, Burnett yelled at her, reached through her open car window, grabbed the dog and hurled it into oncoming traffic.

The 10-year-old pet was struck seconds later.

“It wasn’t just a dog to me,” McBurnett testified during the trial. “For me it was my child. He killed my baby right in front of me.”

Burnett’s attorney, Marc Garcia, said his client instinctively snatched the dog from the car after it bit him.

The attack outraged dog lovers and led to a widespread search for the dog’s killer.

Authorities released a sketch of a suspect in the case in March 2000, but the investigation stalled after McBurnett failed to pick Burnett out of two photo lineups.

Police said an anonymous e-mail tipped them to Burnett, who had been jailed since Jan. 4 on charges connected to the disappearance of a repair van from his employer, Pacific Bell, that was filled with $68,000 worth of equipment.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/599642.asp?0cm=c20

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I don't know if this has already been posted, since I haven't read all the posts..

First of all, I'll say intentional animal abuse is wrong. But then again, look at all the animals we daily abuse for the purpose of eating them or just making fur out of them. Do you really think we wait for animals to die then eat them? No. We kill them. Foods such as pate (I can't put accents.. it's like a french 'fois gras"... obviously I'm not helping) basically mashes the animal. I really don't wanna know how they make beef jerky, and even jello.

We may not know it when we eat it, but pretty much the same thing happens when you throw and animal in traffic to get all squashed up.

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and so, I ate him.
 
there are much more humane ways of killing animals for food than throwing them into traffic. vets do it all the time

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PIT, please remember this isn't the guy's first offense. But he'll be eligible for parole in 18 months. And he was sentenced not just for the animal abuse, but also for the road rage.

Plus, he's also facing a fair amount of jail time for all the equipment he stole from his employer.

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