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Sound Choice Litigation - Worst Fears A Reality

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Well, the terms of the audit make it clear that SC is "fishing" for as much evidence as it can get for suing more and more people. In NC, one of the KJs who "settled" just received he boxes of SC discs, and is waiting for the signed copy of the contract to come back. I haven't seen the document yet, so I don't know if the KJ is screwed by SC or not.

So the "former" pirate is receiving all of the SC disc for less than half what I paid for what I have! Pretty smart move isn't it?
 
Yes I did! I am not shy about stating the truth! At one time I did have files that I did not have legit disc for, I have eliminated those files from my drive. Even though back in the day I did have SC 8125 that disc was broken and I can't find the broken disc so I only had a burned copy of it, I removed those files from my system. My system is now pristine, with 1:1 ratio of disc I can actually produce!

The pot is calling the kettle black but at least the pot is honest in stating the facts!

And so was Eric, so why scorn him out for it?
 
If you are referring to the the statement "According to SC letter they have software that will pick up every file you say you deleted"
Then it is NOT BS.
I have seen the "KARAOKE LIBRARY AUDIT
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF TERMS" myself and it does indicate that they wish to install software on your machine that can detect deleted songs. I will start a new thread and post the contents there.
You CAN undelete files that you would think should be long gone.
I've done it myself.
Just do a google search for undelete and dozens of programs come up. Some don't work worth crap, but others work very well indeed!

Likewise google search for programs that wipe drives clean.....

Again those types of statements are put in letters such as that to strengthen their scare factor....

Any pirate worth his/her salt knowing the possiblities, assumeing they care, could easily skirt any said snooping software. Need I tell you how?
 
So the "former" pirate is receiving all of the SC disc for less than half what I paid for what I have! Pretty smart move isn't it?

True.... but atleast he/she will now have a vested interest in the business rather than zero investment... and maybe, just maybe will start charging competitive rates to get a ROI from the settlement costs at least.
 
Likewise google search for programs that wipe drives clean.....

Again those types of statements are put in letters such as that to strengthen their scare factor....

Any pirate worth his/her salt knowing the possiblities, assumeing they care, could easily skirt any said snooping software. Need I tell you how?
Certainly not. I know very well what can and can't be done. I was just addressing the possibility that you may have been disputing the fact that deleted files could be recovered.

It was hard to tell just WHAT, exactly, you were calling BS on! :)
 
Certainly not. I know very well what can and can't be done. I was just addressing the possibility that you may have been disputing the fact that deleted files could be recovered.

It was hard to tell just WHAT, exactly, you were calling BS on! :)

LOL.... ya, I was refering to the language used and what they might employ to determine if someone is in compliance or not...

Here's the problem with the tactic of reading a hdd for possibly deleted evidence especially in this sort of case...

You could have a legit KJ who has through the years deleted files for songs that he no longer posesses on disc through normal business cercumstances... should he be penalized for deleting files in such a manor?

Of course I know that if they are truely employing such snooping softwares that they undoubtedly would be able to detect the date and even time something was deleted....

So as I say even a 5 year old could get around this.... just keep a duplicate library on a clean hard drive with just the files from discs you own and submit that drive along with the accompaniing discs.... get certified and move on....

Bottom line here is a pirate will always find a way around the system if he really wants too.... or he may choose to settle... as Thunder pointed out getting the entire SC library at a fraction of the cost is a no brainer.

Heck if they'd sell those sets to legit KJ's I'd buy a set myself and never have to worry about an audit.... ever. I'm squeeky clean now anyway but it would certainly boost my track count to have that set.
 
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Heck if they'd sell those sets to legit KJ's I'd buy a set myself and never have to worry about an audit.... ever. I'm squeeky clean now anyway but it would certainly boost my track count to have that set.

Beware, the terms of the settlement give you the current SC catalog, but generally disallow the use of other tracks. The current SC catalog is nowhere near the 3000 or so discs they have made over the years. Still digging thruough the paperwork.
 
Beware, the terms of the settlement give you the current SC catalog, but generally disallow the use of other tracks. The current SC catalog is nowhere near the 3000 or so discs they have made over the years. Still digging thruough the paperwork.

They can't institute a non-compete clause.... by saying you get our entire library as it stands today but, you can't use your other music.... even if they had a legal leg to stand on and make that kind of stipulation I'd show them where they could store their discs in a hurry. I'm sure Chartbuster would have no problem selling their entire library if someone wanted to purchase a complete set and would care if you played a Music Meastro track instead of theirs...
 
Beware, the terms of the settlement give you the current SC catalog, but generally disallow the use of other tracks. The current SC catalog is nowhere near the 3000 or so discs they have made over the years. Still digging thruough the paperwork.

Just to clarify, the discs that SC gives to the KJ's that settle is only Foundations 1 & 2, all 5 Bricks, & 214 Spotlight discs totalling 4,707 songs with duplications.

Yeah it would be nice to get the whole catalog.

My understanding is that the admitted pirate has to delete all SC content from any HD's, or destroy any burns ( that they don't already have original discs for ) then they can 1:1 mediashift the SC settlement discs if they wish.

I don't know anything about the program that many are talking about here but have been told that in the settlement, the KJ agrees to future audits to verify that no new pirated content is being used.
 
I began this thread to capture valuable input regarding tthe SC audit. It has been my contention for quite some time that something isn't quite right with the picture! As a trained auditor, having seen the "scope" and criteria stated in the SC letter, I am now convinced that my skepticism is well-founded!

Hopefully, some have benefited from what has been revealed and have gained a new perspective of the risk the audit exposes them to, clearly some have not!

IN SUMMARY, those who refuse the audit will go to trial and be judged by an institution that we established to uphold the law! Those who assent to the audit face a risk of failing but won't face a trial. And if they fail they will be sold SC discs at bargain bin prices - an insult to everyone who has purchased their products over the years.

With that said, realizing that no minds have been changed about what SC is doing

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!

btw, diafel started another thread that posted the SC in its entirety. I find it interesting that WallOfSound is now grilling people on how "they" came upon the letter
 
I find it interesting that WallOfSound is now grilling people on how "they" came upon the letter

I don't understand why you say I'm "grilling"? I'm just curious since I have not seen it.

Obviously I have seen the list of discs that SC gives in the settlement.

I've seen two different answers in the new thread.

I'll just contact SC about it & see if I can get a copy from the source...

BTW. I agree on closing the thread...
 
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