A moderator took over, she blew smoke up his ****, I disagreed with her...she was running the forum like the nazis, her fan club took over, the forum became a social club, noobs we're being driven off and bullied, and then she lied and made a scandal....and I left out of disgust. I designed the site, I kept the forums up, I did the SEO....I made the mistake...I didn't own neither the hosting or the domain. So when he wanted to stab me in the back there was very little I could do. I suspect he was a pathological liar personally - I tracked him down - he is not what he claims to be. Chris will understand that. It's a really really bitter topic. I'm not going farther into it then that.