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Re: Such a failure as a mom

Really? How is it their business?

I did a research paper on the topic. Many schools are getting involved in behavioral issues even if they are after school and summer activites. By showing the kids that they are always responsible for their behavior in and out of school. In some counties it is also a punishable offense and a child can be charged with some kind of legal consiquence. (don't remember wht and I am way to lazy to find it :lol:
 
Re: Such a failure as a mom

I did a research paper on the topic. Many schools are getting involved in behavioral issues even if they are after school and summer activites. By showing the kids that they are always responsible for their behavior in and out of school. In some counties it is also a punishable offense and a child can be charged with some kind of legal consiquence. (don't remember wht and I am way to lazy to find it :lol:

And lots of schools are making kids and parents sign "code of conduct" contracts to make them responsible for their behaviors outside of school. Kids can get busted for things they say on Facebook because they represent their school...
 
Re: Such a failure as a mom

And lots of schools are making kids and parents sign "code of conduct" contracts to make them responsible for their behaviors outside of school. Kids can get busted for things they say on Facebook because they represent their school...


Gotcha - we haven't done that here in our district yet, and she's no longer in the band or other activities due to problems with grades.
 
Thanks to all of you and esp you Diane for opening up your lives to us. All of your ideas on how to prevent/handle these situations are so helpful. None of us can be naive and think it can't happen in our homes.
 
Thanks to all of you and esp you Diane for opening up your lives to us. All of your ideas on how to prevent/handle these situations are so helpful. None of us can be naive and think it can't happen in our homes.


Thanks - it definitely can happen anywhere. I have tons of friends w/ kids with phone and unmonitored texting, my daughter doesn't even have a phone.
 
My 11yr old ds has a phone but we made sure he cannot send or receive photos. Not that I worry now but just setting a precedent.
 
I'm so afraid of the **** I'm gonna have to deal with when DD4 is that age....

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More power to the parent who makes the harder but better decision!!
 
The officer just called, he found only about 1/10 of what I found :faint:

He will be interviewing dd on Wednesday to see if he can get more out of her.
 
Good luck, Diane.
 
he needs a new job.
 
Verizon just posted this about sexting http://parentalcontrolcenter.com/teenage-sexting-how-to-respond/

Teenage Sexting: How to Respond?


“With sexting incidents all over the news, how should I talk to my kids about it?”



-Susan, Washington





Susan, Great question. With politicians and teens alike making headline news for inappropriate and crude texting, the word “sexting” is fast becoming a critical part of the 21st century parenting lexicon. Sexting is exactly what it sounds like, sending or posting nude or sexually explicit messages or images. But like any hot issue making a big splash in the news, is sexting really happening and is it really a big deal?



Let’s look to the research. According to the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy:
•20% of all teens have sent or posted nude or semi-nude images of themselves.
•40% of all teens have sent or posted sexually explicit messages.
•Nearly 40% of teens have had sexually explicit messages originally meant for someone else shared with them.
•24% of teens say pressure from friends is the reason they post incidents of sexting,
•51% percent of girls say they sext because of pressure from boys.

In many ways, we shouldn’t be surprised by these statistics. Our understanding of and response to teenage sexting should not be driven by fears of “teens gone wild,” but our evolving understanding of adolescent development in the digital age.



Young people are growing up in a world where they are negotiating many issues – from identity to make-ups and break-ups – online. When we look at statistics from Pew Internet, it is clear that cell phones are the new epicenters of young people’s social and emotional lives
• 75% of teens own cell phones and texting has become their preferred way to communicate.
•Boys typically send and receive 30 texts a day.
•Girls typically send and receive 80 messages per day.

Young people’s brains are also wired to be thinking about sex and sexuality – this is a normal part of their development. Yet few are having good conversations with parents or other caring adults about sex, sexual decision-making, and health and high schools lack comprehensive sex education. In lieu of these important resources, too many turn to the Internet, Hollywood, or their peers for guidance on sexual relationships. Finally, teen brains are still undergoing development. While their brains are “under construction” many young people struggle with impulse control, the ability to weigh consequences, and erratic shifts in mood.



Once we connect all of these dots it is not surprising that teens are engaging in sexting. ‘Sexting’ is the 21st century digital manifestation of impulsive adolescent sexual exploration.




Just because teenage sexting is understandable though does not make it any less concerning. The aftermath of sexting can be devastating. I spoke with a young woman last week whose “sext,” originally intended for her boyfriend’s eyes only, made its way onto a public Web site for the whole world to see. Before she knew it, an image of her body was the center of a high profile police investigation on the possession and distribution of child pornography. In some states, sexting is considered a felony while in others it is a misdemeanor. In any state, sexting can have life altering consequences legally and emotionally.



Now that we’ve connected some of the dots, what does this mean for us as parents? While it may be tempting to simply throw out our kids’ cell phones, this strategy alone isn’t much help. Yes – let’s address the tech side of this issue by monitoring young people’s media use and setting clear limits and consequences about online and cell phone behavior. But let’s couple this with important conversations we need to have with our kids about sex, relationships, respect, and sexual health.
 
After many delays (mostly due to an armed robbery of a local yogurt store which is HIGHLY unusual in my town), we had a meeting with the detetive today.

The DA will not be pressing charges against my daughter. And at this time they are not serving warrants against the people she chatted with (that was my decision), however if we get any indication that she may be getting 'looked for' then we have the opportunity to reopen it.

Detective did a good job educating dd on the risks of this type of behavior. He said they have seen several similar issues in our township. One was a 17 year old girl who uploaded pics to photobucket, and even had it passworded, but she gave the password to her boyfriend, who then shared the password, and the pics have ended up on porn sites all over the world. They have also had several issues of kids being harassed who are playing WOW and Call of Duty.

I have the IPOD back, dd isn't touching it though!

Thanks to ALL for supporting me as we dealt with this, and for taking the time to educate your own kids.
 
Great job Mom! Keep on her (both of them actually ;)).

Since your thread, I've been paying more attention to what my kids are doing online.
 
I don't have it in me to give the details of the stuff I've been dealing with for the past 5 months, and I'm feeling very cautious about this post, but here it is.

Obviously, your original title was a self-description about being a failure, and many have already stated that you're not a failure. It's the standard concern for a (good) parent any time their kid does something ****ed up.

I started drinking when I was 12. By the time I was 15, I was an alcoholic, and legendary on both sides of town. I started "doing the pot" when I was 15, then eventually moved on to coke when I was 19. All along the way, I did a whole bunch of other **** that is (most likely) universally frowned upon (e.g. shoplifting, property damage, physical violence, etc.).

Now it's easy for me to see what was going on back then (generally speaking), but at the time, my adolescent brain was on autopilot, and was working with incomplete hard-wiring.

I finally worked toward "normal" by the time I was 20, right about the time I did my last line in the bathroom at work, then abruptly walked out of the building never to return. That was my way to quit the coke. No money, no coke, repo'd car, no job, and dropped to rock bottom.

The friends I had at the time ... well, I ditched them too. I was still drinking, but that became less and less over time. Nearly stopped by the time I worked through 24 to 27, but picked up my pace again leading to 30, at which time me and two of my closest friends had a huge "Otis Night" (name inspired by the Andy Griffith Show).

That was the last time I drank, coming close to 11 years ago now. Not too proud to say that by the time I was 30, I had been a drinker for 18 years, and a real-deal drunk for 10 of those, easily.

In recent years, I found out that my parents were extremely under-informed about everything I had done in my adolescence. The numerous heists of my mom's car for 2 years before I turned 15 were invisible, as were those keggers I had when they went on those utterly infrequent 2-day vacations. Being 6'2" at 11, and looking 21 by the time I was 15 made beer an easy thing to obtain. Bars were happening at 16. Move forward to a 21st birthday surprise party at a BYOB place where I sat there the whole night thinking, "mom, dad, I CAN DRINK A ****ING CASE OF THAT **** BY MYSELF!! BORINGGGGGGGG!!!!!!".

I was also drunk at my high school graduation. Spent the whole morning at the forest preserve only 2 miles away. And by the way, I drove myself to the forest preserve, and then to and from graduation.

Yeah, we kids do some ****ed up things.

I felt bad telling them about all this the stuff, but I had my reasons for the conversations, and even those many years later, I definitely didn't want them to feel like failures.

They weren't failures. I was cunning, very cunning.

Cunning ... kinda like how you can change a girl's wardrobe, but she can always swap those clothes out at a friend's house. She can do makeup there too. You can always take away their phone, but they can get a toss-away at Walmart (and artfully figure out a way to pay for it). Friends help friends. The daughter can ask to go to the mall with a friend (just one friend), and they can meet a couple boys in the food court after you drop them off (one of them drove there by the way). They met on Facebook. They can say they're going to teen impact night at Willow Creek (seems honorable enough), but do something else for those 2 hours instead.

Yes, there's no parenting manual given to every parent that is specific to each kid. And yes, there are certainly parents that are failures ... but people in that category don't actually give a **** about their kid anyway, and their failure was in action long before their kid came along.

But those of us that care (like my parents, and me), and no doubt care deeply, well ... we're not failures. The kids are gonna do ****ed up ****. Didn't we all on some level? (some more than others?).

We're building people here, and doing it without instructions. We do the best we can based on what we were given by our builders (parents).

They didn't have instructions either.

Even if someone constructs one of their kids very well, that means nothing for any of the others. New kid, new instructions (i.e. still no manual).

The failure thing ... what I am trying to say, doing the best that I can to present it in a way that will be understood in the exact way that I intend it to be understood (constructively) is this ...

No, you're not a failure, because you obviously care about your daughter. That's a fact. But (and here's the hard part), a parent absolutely cannot move forward from the adversities their child presents to them with the impression that they've played no role in what their kid has done, or what they will do. That's not the same as failure though. Not even close.

But still, there is work to be done, and being prepared for self-examination is a healthy concept. I've had at least 5 significant situations where I apologized to her, and her mom probably 10 times. Those apologies were real, and she was impressed and strengthened by them, but we found that out from someone else. We have sit-downs, roundtable discussions I call them. We don't talk at her, we talk with her. She's a part of the process, and she has a voice. The rules are a collective process, and they are adjustable.

(GENERALLY SPEAKING, as an example)
If one drinks, even casually, or only once a week, or only on special occasions, they're still telling their kids that drinking is okay ... casually, once a week, or on special occasions ... and at some point the kids decide for themselves what is casual, what is special, and if a couple times a week is maybe okay. Kids hate the "do as I say, not as I do" **** just as much as we did as kids. Just like kids hate to feel like they have no voice, no control, and no independence.

I mentioned this months ago as a great starting point for parents:
http://www.amazon.com/Yes-Your-Teen-Crazy-Without/dp/0936197447/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1

I suggest it again today.

Again, I don't have it in me to give the details of the past 5 months, but living through adolescence from the "parent" side of life is a bit of a ****ing nightmare. I'm kinda glad I'm not dealing with the adolescent version of myself, but from a dude's standpoint, building teen girls is a ****ing nightmare (I know what dudes are about). But I love her, and it's the job I took on.

Right when I think that wonderful 15 year old girl isn't the type to do something "crazy", after getting off work early, I pull up to the overflow parking to see her in a car with a 17-year-old boy's hand down her shirt, and his other hand wildly working her crotch within the shorts. Within the underwear (as I found out).

Temporary insanity? I'd say yessir/yesma'am.

Other than a couple people here, none of you know me in person. I'm a nice guy, but I'm also a big guy, and I'm many years into re-making myself into a more calm, collected guy ... as opposed to the guy who broke people noses, arms and collar bones over "mom jokes".

But the rage is hard to contain when ya see something like that. And forcing asphyxiation on someone starts to look like a pretty **** good idea. But that's no good for me, no good for her, and definitely no good for him.

I gotta stop going on about that. I've been awake for 43 hours. I'm probably rambling. Time to sleep (and wake in 5½ hours).

Back to the topic here.

Anyway, it's not for me to say whether calling the police was a good idea or not, nor is it for me to say whether or not the corrections that were put into place were a good idea. It's your kid, and it's your call.

What I can say is this, and this is offered in the most humble way possible, please, take a look at that book. Give it a try. It's not even $10 as of this post. It's a great starting point (in my opinion).

And of course, best of luck to you, and your daughter.

Her world isn't the same as ours was. When I was a youth, fights were one on one, and people stopped it at some point. These days, many kids will beat the **** out of one kid, and nobody stops it. In my day, hitting a girl was a no-no. These days, far too many of the girls think getting hit is okay, especially if they "dissed" their boyfriend in some way. We've given the youth of today a ****ed up world loaded with conflicting information. Don't drink son, and hey, get me a beer from the fridge and we'll talk about it. I've heard parents that just found out their kid gets drunk every once in a while say to us, "well, at least he's not doing drugs" ... and I think to myself, "what the motherfuck is wrong with you?"

Anyway, best of luck to you, and your daughter.
 
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