I thanked Rick's post. However, I only meant the part ABOVE the "FOS". No thanks for that.
JoeChartreuse said:I thanked Rick's post. However, I only meant the part ABOVE the "FOS". No thanks for that.
SoftJock Rick said:Yer just mad, because I called you out too. :sqlaugh:
JoeChartreuse said:Nah. Never mad. This just an internet forum, ya know..:sqrolleyes:
SoftJock Rick said:Depends -- some keep track...
JoeChartreuse said:I love this forum, but I'm too old to get absorbed with cyberspace. Stuck in the real life frame....The sex is better here..:sqwink:
Manobeer said:Kurt...
I have asked this question about the GEM SERIES before but never received an answer(from you).
So you sell the Gem series in a set, and allow the customer to make a duplicate copy(in writing). So my question is...
Does the Artist(copyright holder) get credit(compensation) for both copies(the one sold and the duplicate you permit)?
darkpowrjd said:By the way, you must excuse me for my passionate views about this, as I've been following this whole piracy debate with a number of mediums for some time.
Sound Choice said:Then I recommend that if you would like to have your views taken more seriously you spend a good bit of time reading and understanding the copyright laws and trademark laws AND subsequent court cases where things have been further defined or narrowed. Until that time, if you do not want to add to the confusion which you so readily blame others for creating, I would suggest that you preface your remarks with "IN MY OPINION". And, if you WISH that someone would take a certain action (because it is YOUR wish) then also state that you "WISH that "so and so" would do "such and such" because in your OPINION the desired result which you BELIEVE would be the result will occur.
Sound Choice said::
For all those that are format and/or media shifting content and thereby making a new copy, you ARE violating the rights of the various rights holders (song writer, publishers, record label/karaoke producer) unless you have something in writing specifically allowing you to make the media/format shift. And you are running the risk (no matter how great or small) that they might one day take legal action against you for doing so. Keeping to the 1:1 concept will minimize the risk that they would be awarded damages, but it still exists.
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Bazza said:It doesn't say you WILL be audited. Just that you agree that you CAN be audited. It also says it is for Sound Choice songs only by the way.
My take is that, since I just bought the entire set, why would they spend the time & trouble to audit me? The only reason I can think of is if they see MY serial number pop up somewhere else and want to verify the discs are still in my possession, or for stray Eagles songs I guess. Honestly, I will be very surprised if I get the audit call.
Bazza said:But unless I am breaching the contract, whats the point of the audit in the first place? You could come up with all sorts of "what if" scenarios regarding the licensing agreement. I mean what if after five years they DEMAND all your discs back? I suppose they could, but to what end?
c. staley said:You don't have to be breaching anything. Just ask those that are 1:1 and have been sued like KJAthena or Good Time Karaoke... they didn't "breach" anything either did they?
c. staley said:Funny.... you should be asking KJAthena or Good Time Karaoke that.... They were both sued with no "proof" as you say.
And no, your sweeping statement of "If you're legal no worries" is pure bull. Ask KJAthena if they were legal or Good Time Karaoke if they were legal and they'll tell you "yes, we are." Did that prevent them from being sued? Nope.
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Proformance said:From what instrument of law do you derive such a right to require this proof?
Where can I find this 1:1 standard in the law or in any previous Sound Choice purchase contract?
Proformance said:"Consumer" and "Home Use" are not legally interchangeable.
The "user" in "commercial use" is often not synonymous with the "owner" of the disc being played.
I can walk into any night club right now with any retail disc I own and hand it to the DJ to be played. If he plays it - any liability for "commercial use" passes to the club - not me. They are the user, they are the one accruing the commercial benefit.
If you truly believed that the "consumption" of your product was synonymous only with use in a private home - then you willingly violated both your own policy and the scope of your own license by targeting working DJs/KJs and commercial venues.
You can't have it both ways.
JoeChartreuse said:Steve, please re-read my post, which was directed at freaking SOUND CHOICE.
They said you were 1:1 in their book, yet you have never been audited- So I asked THEM why that was. Got it? Not aimed at you.
Birdofsong said:Looking forward to a balanced and respectful exchange of ideas and opinions among collegues.
Birdofsong
Jon Tuck said:I have to give Schlepp credit for groundbreaking efforts. It is certainly true that mistakes would surely be be made along the way. However we finally find new measures to gain control.........................this is the hopes of the pioneer effort.
A place to debate everything and anything!