Sound Choice said:we just spent a tremendous amount of time and money developing a product which has use for both legal "shifters" and pirates.....
Sound Choice said:1) Keep in mind that I've been at this forever, and my disc library includes a whole bunch of many mfrs. products collected over the years.
2) As for your "Challenge" of getting rid of pirates in NJ, we don't owe you anything nor do we have to prove anything to you. But even though you failed my counter to your challenge regarding our song licenses, I will give you another chance and offer you a "counter" challenge in regards to getting rid of pirates.
For every ten pirates we either get rid of or make pay a higher cost to be in business, YOU have to do the same with one. So one for every ten that we get rid of or make pay - only 10%! That should be doable for you, since you have all the answers.
We'll make this a long term challenge since we want you to have every possibility to identify the "pirate" properly so you do not falsely accuse anyone. So, six months from August 1, 2010, we'll do the tally. Are you going to accept this or were you just shooting of your mouth again?
3) And by the way, suing someone for IP infringement has nothing to do with "restraint of trade" since no one has a right to "trade" by illegally infringing IP rights.
KjAthena said:Again I will post that we do agree with SC and their actions and will continue to do so for any other manus that attack the pirates. I have been pretty chewed up because of my posts stating this and exspect more of the same but PIRACY is STEALING and I take it personally. We are anxiously awiating our KIAA and SafeHarbor cards and will display them proudly.
It seems to me that most of the complaining about SC and their attacks against piracy have come from people who are blowing smoke instead of facing up to the real issues. In a perfect world the Karaoke industry would have other options available to fight piracy....unfortunatly we do not live in a perfect world.
Ok I am off my soap box again
it is all of you who have format/media shifted ALREADY OR outright stolen content that have caused the problems being discussed.
Proformance said:I don't take piracy personally - because, I don't manufcature discs. I look after my own interests which are largely separate from any manufacturer.
One of my interests is managing liability. Piracy is a liability so nix that idea.
Another liability is the actions of other companies that would make thier problem into my problem. Enter Soundchoice and my opposition to thier lawsuit campaigns.
Piracy is of little concern to me and my business. I don't need it, and I'm not threatened by the reality of this climate that gives rise to it. Piracy offers no real financial incentive to anyone with a meaningful business acumen. Music and karaoke are very cheap products and as Joe has pointed out - it only takes a small collection to be successful.
I resent SC and others who would argue that disinterest in their interests proves something nefarious about my operations. This is a concern to me and it deserves a hard and forceful rebuttal.
I get that you're happy with your audit. Simply put - I just don't want to be you. I'm sorry you seem to take that personally
Thunder said:Bob,
I understand everything you just posted and it is clear, piracy is no skin off your nose, you don't care about piracy because it does affect you or your business model, you don't run karaoke shows!
So what I really don't understand is why are you even in these discussions?
Are you in it just to throw sticks at those of us who are affected by it be it those who own libraries or the pirates who don't?
If you have no dog in this fight then why are you holding a leash?
The same can be said for Jon, Rick and a couple of others as well even including Joe who has stated that pirates do not affect his business!
So why are any of you in these discussions other than to bash Sound Choice and those who support their actions?
Unless the only reason you are here is to support the actions of the pirates!
Thunder said:Rick,
You have already stated in several post that you have no interest in producing a karaoke player, you have suddenly changed your mind? While you have a great DJ player and I love it! The Karaoke field is already covered up with computer player systems that are decent to excellent. While I don't see a problem with having one more and your's would be very welcome, I don't see where the issue of Sound Choice will affect the legal use of your system! Granted if a lot of pirates leave the field or don't get into it then I can see where that could affect your wanting to even bother with producing a player!
SoftJock Rick said:I have a dog in this fight -- the decision on whether I enable karaoke in an upcoming version of my software...
Loneavenger said:Whether they like it or not they are definitely helping the pirates arguments, I doubt any of them are pirates but they are certainly helping pirates in these discussions
SoftJock Rick said:Karaoke is already partially built into my software -- I just haven't enabled it, like other things for tempo, key change, et. al. What I enable in releases, depends on a number of variables, such as support costs, market pricing, maturity of the feature, etc.
But there are other issues as well...
SC seems to be sue happy, and desperate for cash flow -- who's to say they won't go after software producers, who's software can play their stuff, and display their trademarks...?
Desperate people, do desperate things...
Recall in another thread you mentioned being aware of your surroundings, so you don't get involved in bad situations. That's why I'm here poking around...
SC seems to be sue happy, and desperate for cash flow -- who's to say they won't go after software producers, who's software can play their stuff, and display their trademarks...?
Jon Tuck said:I have to give Schlepp....
Thunder said:If this is the issue that concerns you then why not raise it with Sound Choice instead of bashing their efforts in matters unrelated to your concerns!
c. staley said:How? It's not a public forum (anymore.)
c. staley said:How? It's not a public forum (anymore.)
A place to debate everything and anything!