Not sure what abortions have to do with illegals here? :9:we are funding abortions in other countries, we are paying other countries for oil when we have our own.........we are fighting wars to protect people in other countries.
Yes they do.Watching MSNBC about all the immigration rights rallies-do they really have rights????
For example, every person in the United States has the right to due process and equal protection; to criminal proceedings that afford a right to counsel, a jury trial and freedom from double jeopardy; to freedom from cruel and unusual punishment; to freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; and to freedom of speech, religion and association. These basic principles generally apply regardless of an immigrant’s legal status.
Under the law, non-citizens do not have the same right as citizens to enter or remain in the United States, and the Supreme Court has ruled that constitutional guarantees sometimes offer less protection to non-citizen. In particular, the Supreme Court has allowed Congress wide-ranging power to set the rules governing admission of foreigners. For examples, the Court has permitted Congress to bar admission of persons based on their political beliefs, sexual orientation and economic status. In addition the Supreme Court has ruled that non-citizens outside the United States seeking initial entry to the country are requesting a privilege and have no constitutional status of a non-citizen increased in proportion to his or her ties to the United States. While persons in the country charge with being deportable have the right to a hearing that comports with due process, the law creates a legal fiction that persons stopped at the border can be treated as if they were still outside the United States even though they are physically present in the country.
Not sure what abortions have to do with illegals here? :9:
The US is far too dependent on oil to use only our own supplies, we don't have enough.
Whom was it who started the war to protect who & why? Certainly wasn't to get the folks who caused 9-11 or we'd have bombed other countries.
Yes they do.
The US Constitution & Bill of Rights apply to ALL persons in the US, citizens, legal or illegal.
yes, and a right to appeal any rulings to a higher court.It simply means they have the right to a fair trial and proper representation during such a trial.....correct???
Why does America have to be the bad guy by enforcing our laws?
We always get **** on for this type of stuff. Why?
Nobody says a peep when any other country enforces their laws.
Yes they do.
The US Constitution & Bill of Rights apply to ALL persons in the US, citizens, legal or illegal.
No, it is the American way. We are a nation of laws and rights, and those rights are sacred.That is some f-ed up stuff!
No, it is the American way. We are a nation of laws and rights, and those rights are sacred.
I have mixed feelings on what this admin is up to. I have confirmation from people back home in Manila that getting a US visa has been quite "easy" lately. It seems the consuls have been granting tourist visas w/o the usual stringent measure they did for many years while trying to make sure that those who are coming here as visitors have no prior intent to stay here permanently.
I was talking to my brother and told him, this is ironic if they will make it easy for visitors to come here w/o making sure they are going to leave when its time for them to leave. With the economic situation at its worse in years, how is this gov't going to support an influx of visitors who refuse to leave? If the jobs that many snubbed before the economy got bad are now being taken by the citizens, what is left for the illegals to support their stay here? It is a nightmare just to think about it.
actually she is right, in that the us supreme court has upheld the decisions for illegals. Scary that it's ok for an illegal to break a law to get here, BUT they are protected. That is some f-ed up stuff!
No, it is the American way. We are a nation of laws and rights, and those rights are sacred.
Sati, I'm not arguing with you at all, on the moral side of it. There have been court cases that have gone back to 1886 about chinese immigrants... (if you want to read the info it can be found here: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/illegalrights.htm )
Because they didn't come here illegally, they ought not receive, but yet they are entitled.
The US established laws and especially our civil liberties and rights specifically because we didn't want to be like other countries, we are better. Our forefathers brought forth a nation better than what they left behind.yup, for those WHO ARE BORN HERE AND RESPECT THELAW
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